Suicide day after Valentines day , probably not with her X who refused to press charges, looming trial in a few days, and career in tatters in the meanwhile. I guess these were major plays in her demise.
I have a feeling that she had been dealing with issues for a long time...
But, as someone said, the idiot ponitificators who are "blaming" love island should have a word with themselves : that inflatable dinghy of a human being that is Eamonn Holmes actually said something to the effect of "well, there have to be repercussions for love island now". I can think of lots of reasons why that brain cell sapping nonsense should be ended, but leaping to a spurious link between the programme and this awfulness is just so ridiculous and irresponsible...
2 of them were contestants, and while there is a debate to be had about the effects of reality TV in general, and how takes "ordinary" people, chews them up and spits them out, yes, it is a fecking insane leap to insist that the particular programme had anything to do with the tragic suicide of a professional woman who has been in the public eye for 18 years, and seemed to be extremely happy to be part of the programme for 6 seasons, had every intention of continuing to be part of it until the assault charge.
As opposed to thinking that, maybe, just maybe, faced with the destruction of her career and financial disaster (if she was found guilty of the assault, her career would be, to all intents and purposes over), she made a terrible and tragic decision.
I'm not sure that description does it justice. She was awaiting trial for bludgeoning her partner with a lamp. It's not like it was bad luck (although obv there but for the grace of God re impulse control etc).
I get confused about the different English variations but she allegedly hit him with a lamp and pictures of the bed covered in blood were leaked. All very grim.
I've never wanted to hit anyone but any decision you make is based on your brain infrastructure and ability to process impulses and frustrations. You are not necessarily aware of your own lack of impulse control. And violence against others and oneself are often from the same font.
Would personalities give plaudits if Phil Schofield bumped himself off? You bet they would. This is a man who suspected he was gay, lied to his wife about it for years and even had some children with her.
Systematically defrauding your partner for nearly three decades? Potentially devastating a life. I’ll deffo take once being lamped over that torture thanks.
You don't know she didn't know. Indeed it seems improbable that she didn't. She might also have been gay or not that into sex. The outrage over that is gross and invasive
Ok you do that, but my ex husband lied to me A LOT and hit me quite a few times. The lying was not that important by comparison. Lying bad, hitting worse
Lindaradlett and Teclis - to clarify, I think Teclis was saying he would happily accept being lamped ONCE (I read that to mean a one-off lamping rather than continuous lampings) over being lied to repeatedly over 30 years.
The misunderstanding arose due to the frequency of the wrongful actions.
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Wtaf ?
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:(
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Beyond gutted :(
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Appears to be true. Poor thing.
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Seems true:
https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/10971333/caroline-flack-dead-love-island-took-own-life/
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V sad. Too widepread now to be incorrect.
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Holy shit no!
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Let me guess, Tec...
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Omg it’s true. I’m heartbroken. Poor girl.
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Genuinely sitting here in tears.
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How long were you going out with her, Tec?
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Oh fgs
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Guess this means the trial's off then?
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I’ve never met her. Wish that I had. Hopefully I could have saved her this fate.
an ex of mine told me to stay the fook away from her, years ago.
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Was that Dame Joan Collins or Dame Vera Lynn?
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Really still tears. Am rewatching the Witcher and still crying over this.
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’Was that Dame Joan Collins or Dame Vera Lynn?’
ok that gets a heh
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"Hopefully I could have saved her this fate."
ok dude just stop. Srsly
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Tecco - easy mate
was she the one who was going to be tried for physically abusing her partner even though he had withdrawn the complaint?
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I have been physically abused by a partner. Ridiculous I know, I’m a fooking huge bloke. But I am aware of how it happens.
just, very upset. It’s not right.
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no idea who she is, but love island is exploitative shite and if you’ve ever watched it you’re a moron
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Thats awful beyond words all because of some poxy ABH charge. Awful.
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Ebitda - do you think cps is responsible for this?
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No I do not
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the CPS are responsible for all kinds of fooked up shit tbf, so I wouldn’t be too hasty in unfingering them for this.
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?
She obviously had a really difficult situation going on it seems a bit simplistic to identify any one reason.
Altho this is less weird than the people on twitter blaming love island.
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evidently the poor woman had serious mental health issues. she did wrong, the press were aunts about it, as they always are....very sad indeed
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I don't think anyone can say exactly what happened / prompted events yet. No one can know for certain.
Except Tec, obv.
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Suicide day after Valentines day , probably not with her X who refused to press charges, looming trial in a few days, and career in tatters in the meanwhile. I guess these were major plays in her demise.
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What clergs and roger said.
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40 years old! Justo sad...
And, at the risk of stating the obvious : Teclis, for fvck's sake!
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Cru! Hello☺and awful news about Caroline flack. Such a shitstorm for her to deal with.
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Hello Doggers! How are you?
I have a feeling that she had been dealing with issues for a long time...
But, as someone said, the idiot ponitificators who are "blaming" love island should have a word with themselves : that inflatable dinghy of a human being that is Eamonn Holmes actually said something to the effect of "well, there have to be repercussions for love island now". I can think of lots of reasons why that brain cell sapping nonsense should be ended, but leaping to a spurious link between the programme and this awfulness is just so ridiculous and irresponsible...
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3 fooking suicides linked to that programme. hardly an insane leap ffs
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The folk who would agree to go on a joke of a show like that are a bit self selecting. I don’t watch it but even I know that.
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Pretty weird that the BBC clearly had an obituary ready to go. I suppose they must for everyone.
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Also what teclis said.
Fill the void with external approbation and see how that works out.
That said I don't think choosing to live is a particularly rational choice, it's an emotional/ instinctive one.
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Any clue on method?
overdose of something perhaps
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2 of them were contestants, and while there is a debate to be had about the effects of reality TV in general, and how takes "ordinary" people, chews them up and spits them out, yes, it is a fecking insane leap to insist that the particular programme had anything to do with the tragic suicide of a professional woman who has been in the public eye for 18 years, and seemed to be extremely happy to be part of the programme for 6 seasons, had every intention of continuing to be part of it until the assault charge.
As opposed to thinking that, maybe, just maybe, faced with the destruction of her career and financial disaster (if she was found guilty of the assault, her career would be, to all intents and purposes over), she made a terrible and tragic decision.
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I'm not sure that description does it justice. She was awaiting trial for bludgeoning her partner with a lamp. It's not like it was bad luck (although obv there but for the grace of God re impulse control etc).
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Of course - I certainly wasn't trying to underplay it : assault is what she was charged with, I believe?
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Err impulse control? I can categorically state that I do not have violent impulses and find it weird that people do.
if I’ve hit someone then I’ve made a decision to hit them. The way ou say it you’ve wanted to hit someone but your decision making got in the way.
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Meanwhile the gutter press that hounded her are quietly cleaning house. Khunts.
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2020/feb/15/the-sun-takes-down-article-about-caroline-flack-from-website?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
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I get confused about the different English variations but she allegedly hit him with a lamp and pictures of the bed covered in blood were leaked. All very grim.
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I've never wanted to hit anyone but any decision you make is based on your brain infrastructure and ability to process impulses and frustrations. You are not necessarily aware of your own lack of impulse control. And violence against others and oneself are often from the same font.
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I’ve always argued this
criminal responsibility is a myth
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Care to expand on that m77?
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Would there be as much sympathy for a male celebrity who’d been arrested for smacking a lady about?
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Well Geoffrey boycott was recently knighted so ....
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Late thirties white male lawyer in questioning whether we have a patriarchal power structure non shocka.
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Also you can simultaneously think that her death is tragic, and the tabloids are trash, and that what she did (assuming she did) was terrible.
well, most people the emotional range to think all that.
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what LR said on the knocking about point
if a celebrity wife beater topped himself there would be plenty of eulogies
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I don't think there would be the same surprise, though.
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Would personalities give plaudits if Phil Schofield bumped himself off? You bet they would. This is a man who suspected he was gay, lied to his wife about it for years and even had some children with her.
far worse imo. Lying to your partner fgs.
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No lying to your partner isn't worse than smacking them about, but we digress
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Far worse than violently assaulting your partner with a lamp? Er, OK then.
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jesus tecco do you ever say anything that’s not in the top right quadrant of the “mental vs wrong” 2x2?
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Systematically defrauding your partner for nearly three decades? Potentially devastating a life. I’ll deffo take once being lamped over that torture thanks.
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You don't know she didn't know. Indeed it seems improbable that she didn't. She might also have been gay or not that into sex. The outrage over that is gross and invasive
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I will be outraged by whatever i darn well choose.
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Ok you do that, but my ex husband lied to me A LOT and hit me quite a few times. The lying was not that important by comparison. Lying bad, hitting worse
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did you take your ex's advice or did you go ahead and start up a dangerous, fiery and, yes, passionate affair with la Flack?
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I'll field this one: no he doesn't.
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Heh, I hadn’t seen the remark hot now quoted but I could somehow guess who posted it!
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Lindaradlett and Teclis - to clarify, I think Teclis was saying he would happily accept being lamped ONCE (I read that to mean a one-off lamping rather than continuous lampings) over being lied to repeatedly over 30 years.
The misunderstanding arose due to the frequency of the wrongful actions.
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Domestic abuser tops herself. Nothing to see here. Move along.
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Too scared to face justice - took the easy way out.
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M66 can you please just give it a couple of days?
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why are u such a fooking twot
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So much what the actual fook on this thread
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I note that the Sunday Times article has chosen to picture 4 selfies of ms flack with a dog. *
As an English man, I am obviously now thinking OMG SHE HAD A DOG HOW COULD She as the editorial team no doubt intended.
*could be a dog, could be that alien from men in black
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The coverage is appalling. Particularly the "CPS show trial" angle.
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I assume that advice was given for Caroline’s benefit yeah?
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heh
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rof is so filled with weird weird fookers.
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Amen bro
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What everyone who isn't mental said on this thread and not what everyone who is mental did say.
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Clearly Buzz does not feel he could have saved her
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Tec serious question, how might might you have saved her ?
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Not sure that question is likely to be productive tbh
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"Pretty weird that the BBC clearly had an obituary ready to go. I suppose they must for everyone."
My m7 is at the mirror and they have an obit ready for literally every sleb going. I guess they all come in handy eventually...
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Interesting Meh!
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All major media organisations have an obituary editor
must be a weird job
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Poor soul. Is it a coincidence that several people associated with Love Island have taken their own life?
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