Agree. Feedback culture is part of a wider problem which is that many now spend more time talking about their own or others’ work and goals at the expense of doing any actual work. Connected to that is another problem which is that many of those keenest to share their valuable insights are idiots. Do you give feedback regardless if asked?
My old place started reporting on how many different people you'd given feedback to around the business each month, how much you'd got, which teams are giving the most feedback etc etc. You could barely look in the direction of a junior before they sent you a request for feedback.
High performance cultures and high performance cultures
So have a lot of similarities
Law firms and football teams? A bunch of highly paid, highly trained generally younger people from diverse backgrounds with big egos and a drive to succeed
It would work if law firms didn't just recruit from private schools so can't be considered diverse
NO I DO NOT WANT TO RATE MY COURIER. HE DROVE A VAN TO MY HOUSE AND LEFT A PACKAGE ON MY DOORSTEP. I AM NOT GOING TO RATE HIM OUT OF FIVE IN SEVEN CATEGORIES. FVCK OFF.
Oh, and every last junior nothing being conditioned to tell everyone else about how they feel about what they’ve been asked to do, from opening the door for someone - assuming any doors aren’t automatic- is going to finish this country. And rightly so.
My first manager told me if there was something wrong she’d tell me, so I shouldn’t assume something was wrong if she hadn’t. Praise very tightly rationed but valued accordingly when it came. Spot on it was and I’ve tried to be the same. This oversharing w**k is awful, particularly in our profession
“This” being YWTF’s experience at 9.22am. While I am here, I also hate the phrase “high performance culture”. The only places that wang on about having one are those that do not.
It goes without saying that only the stupid leave eg Google or trustpilot reviews. Went to a session with a cyber security guy a while back and the random person selected from a large company’s list of employees had his home addresses, car, child’s place of school disclosed to anyone with a mouse by his wife’s fondness for giving feedback.
I recently learnt that if you complete the end of call phone surveys on service people.. and don’t give them a 10 out of 10 they get an ass kicking and put on review. Even a 9/10 is not good enough
Friend of mine works in corporate travel bookings and is on same performance arrangements
I think a lot of it is just designed to create an artificial environment for Karens to have a feeling of entitlement and control.
"Based on your boarding experience today using the overhead lockers on your flight from fookknuckle Airport, on a scale of one to ten, how likely are you to recommend Bumfukhistan Airways to a friend or colleague?"
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Tying for first place in this years shortest book award
1 rishi sunak - 100 tips on how to win an election.
2 clergles - things i like
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5/10.
Would not visit thread again.
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Doesn't matter as I already have Ur entry fee
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So just out of interest what is your standard fee for entry?
Assuming nothing kinky, obviously.
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Plug in this ‘ere AC30, that’ll feed back for you.
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Agree. Feedback culture is part of a wider problem which is that many now spend more time talking about their own or others’ work and goals at the expense of doing any actual work. Connected to that is another problem which is that many of those keenest to share their valuable insights are idiots. Do you give feedback regardless if asked?
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What if you're kittens and you want to be better?
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Spend less time collecting feedback and more time doing the work? Controversial
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My Bloody Valentine are great
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Kittens are already perfect
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Our place calls it “feedforward”.
Still makes me gag every time I hear it
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Cinghamm nails it.
In my career, I’ve noticed a massive increase in people talking about work rather than doing it.
I also think the 360 degree feedback culture tends to encourage a back scratching culture which encourages post office style group think.
Obviously self promotion has always gone on but it does feel as though it’s got worse. Just look at the crap on LinkedIn
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Love constant feedback
Improves low performers with targeted and accurate instant pointers
Gives high performers the praise they deserve and keeps them motivated
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My old place started reporting on how many different people you'd given feedback to around the business each month, how much you'd got, which teams are giving the most feedback etc etc. You could barely look in the direction of a junior before they sent you a request for feedback.
One of the final straws.
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Ywtf - seriously ? I’d never heard that before
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It's just absurd
It adds no value and spoils humanity
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ur such a dick Davos m8. keep it up old sun.
dun woked & liberal since crawling out the gutter.
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Feed forward
These people don’t even realise they’re mutilating language do they?
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High performance cultures need constant feedback
Do you think top football managers wait until a yearly review to tell a player they have down something well or poorly?
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Feed forward?
There’s a medical term for that.. it’s called fecal vomiting.
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Could it be possibly be that management of footballers should be different to management in offices?
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High performance cultures and high performance cultures
So have a lot of similarities
Law firms and football teams? A bunch of highly paid, highly trained generally younger people from diverse backgrounds with big egos and a drive to succeed
It would work if law firms didn't just recruit from private schools so can't be considered diverse
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NO I DO NOT WANT TO RATE MY COURIER. HE DROVE A VAN TO MY HOUSE AND LEFT A PACKAGE ON MY DOORSTEP. I AM NOT GOING TO RATE HIM OUT OF FIVE IN SEVEN CATEGORIES. FVCK OFF.
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If you're shyt, you will hear about it, I don't need pestering to provide that feedback.
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Oh, and every last junior nothing being conditioned to tell everyone else about how they feel about what they’ve been asked to do, from opening the door for someone - assuming any doors aren’t automatic- is going to finish this country. And rightly so.
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My first manager told me if there was something wrong she’d tell me, so I shouldn’t assume something was wrong if she hadn’t. Praise very tightly rationed but valued accordingly when it came. Spot on it was and I’ve tried to be the same. This oversharing w**k is awful, particularly in our profession
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Agree with clergham here tbf
Wtf wants to hear more of other people’s opinions?
This entire ‘industry’ is thoroughly skewered in Bullshit Jobs by David Graeber
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I just applied for a postal vote. I wrote 'I have no feedback' on the mandatory feedback field. everybody cheered
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Can you just imagine the sort of business-speak word-salad that Davos subjects his long-suffering colleagues to...
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Explain with examples how you have lived the firm’s DEI policy this year?
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This is how it should be done.
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“This” being YWTF’s experience at 9.22am. While I am here, I also hate the phrase “high performance culture”. The only places that wang on about having one are those that do not.
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anyone leaving a review on Google (or whatever) should be sectioned immediately
What sort of wrong turns must you have taken in life to end up the sort of person who leaves online reviews?
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"The only places that wang on about having one are those that do not. "
Except all the places that do
Hth
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Davos I am overwhelmed by the strength of your submission.
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Strong correlation between poor performers and those whose don't like feedback or high performance cultures
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Strong correlation between people who do fvck all and who spend their time ‘collating feedback’ and ‘fostering a culture’
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It goes without saying that only the stupid leave eg Google or trustpilot reviews. Went to a session with a cyber security guy a while back and the random person selected from a large company’s list of employees had his home addresses, car, child’s place of school disclosed to anyone with a mouse by his wife’s fondness for giving feedback.
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Yes that must be it Davos. The dissenters just can’t take the heat of your High Performance Culture.
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I recently learnt that if you complete the end of call phone surveys on service people.. and don’t give them a 10 out of 10 they get an ass kicking and put on review. Even a 9/10 is not good enough
Friend of mine works in corporate travel bookings and is on same performance arrangements
I think a lot of it is just designed to create an artificial environment for Karens to have a feeling of entitlement and control.
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As for cyber security Go put your own email into https://haveibeenpwned.com
And find out how many times your own email address and other data has been included in a mass data breach from some really surprising places.
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"Based on your boarding experience today using the overhead lockers on your flight from fookknuckle Airport, on a scale of one to ten, how likely are you to recommend Bumfukhistan Airways to a friend or colleague?"
Oh fook the fook off.
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