What will history say about this stuff? Melody lines that are flat, perfect for half singing on the walk onstage or even on a treadmill. Victim claiming lyrics. Effing auto tuned vocals. Obvs on the cover she’s lying in her pants. Just because. And now a mush of noughties indie folk with doubled vocals just to be sure. Oh but she’s a genius. Is this the world we created? What did we do it for?
The song she did with Bon Iver was amazing. She's fine, not great. Admire what's she's achieved. And she annoys risky and is nasty ilk. Big winner for me, Clive.
not a fan and I think it's the most bland pop (all today's is very bland and formulaic)
Auto tune should be banned. I'll give TayTay her due though, her live performance on Tiny Desk Music was actually quite good. I'll never buy her records or add her to a playlist but... the youth's seem to like her.
Recently, because I hate auto tune, I went back to singers I hadn't really paid attention to and discovered the most amazing song by Melanie (you'll know her from I got a brand pair of rollerskates) called "Lay down". Wow, what a voice she had. Sadly she died last month.
Still can't get into Joni Mitchell or Joan Baez though...
music publishers are also going back over live performances, some iconic performances and auto tuning them. I mean, Freddie Mercury at Live Aid has already been redone! They're quietly removing the originals from YouTube at the same time.
When a back catalogue is being "remastered", they are quantizing the drums and pitch correcting the vocals. This is really annoying me. Once you use a computer to correct a vocal, is it even the singers vocal anymore.
My 9 year old daughter is moderately obsessed with her so I end up listening to her in the car. I quite like her. I mean her music is not profound or anything and it’s hardly pushing boundaries but there are some catchy tunes, a little bit of humour and even self awareness and she is a reasonably positive role model on a scale of things. Good luck to her.
She (or her producers) have an ear for a catchy tune, lyrically she tends to be quite smart and is very good at conveying images. I think the folklore stuff is really good in some cases. Ain’t nothing wrong with pop done well and she does pop well. Only pseuds or right wingers get wound up by her.
The same genre that brought you the Bay City Rollers.
As for why she's so popular, same reason the super bowl ad slots go up even when other ad slots go down, as things become more disparate, the few commonalities become wildly more popular.
There's just so much about TS that is bloodless. I mean, who gives a fvck if it's for kids, it's their parents who have to pay for it. Thousands upon thousands. No wonder you millennials are so infantilised.
So far resisted shelling out for tickets. She is not coming to the desert. Looked at tickets for the London gig in the summer but it's like 800 quid a ticket (not even fancy tickets) which is insane.
Scylla, it was the vocal range on Lay Down that blew me away. The lyrics are quite dark also.
I think she was bigger in America than she was in the UK, especially after Woodstock. The only song I knew her for was "I got a brand new pair of rollerskates" and everyone considered that a novelty song. Especially after the Worzells did their cover of it.
I quite like her music (inc the Bon Iver track) but - and fortunately this isn't a problem for me - if you were a potential boyfriend surely you would just feel like you were lyric fodder ?
It was a joke. I had no idea who Joe Alwyn is until I read the Wikipedia entry after reading your last post. Haven’t seen any of his movies or tv series.
I don’t really understand why she inspires such strong feelings either way. But there’s nothing wrong with it, I’m just not the target audience. It’s good there’s lots of different music.
Not to start a swfty fight but my daughter tells me the consensus is that the Smallest Man is about is about some bloke called Matty, not Joe. No idea who Matty is!
I find it a bit distasteful to use lyrics to mock every ex you’ve ever been with. I can understand the occasional song having a go at someone you have genuine beef with but, from what I gather, every song seems to be having a go at someone different.
Not a big fan of washing your dirty laundry in public (and getting the rest of the world to ridicule them too by singing along).
My 8 year old wanted singing lessons (in a bid to be a pop star). The singing teacher came out and thanked me for being the first 8 year old girl in the week to not to request Taylor Swift. She asked to sing Jolene and Teenage Dirtbag.
Scylla has this. She (or her writers) have a real way with a catchy tune and evocative lyrics (even on the break up songs) - I think that is what hits the kids as much as anything. It’s great pop music done well and there is nothing wrong with that. Ask the Beatles, Elton, Bowie etc etc
I also really think the two folk(ish) albums are really really good - you can see the influence of the dessners- a good companion piece is to listen to Lisa Hannigan At Swim which is them practising for Folklore (and is another great album, one even the sneering cookie might have time for)
It is @scylla and once the teacher had planted the Taytay seed my daughter was singing it the following week!
I’m a fan. Little girls have Taylor in the same way we had Madonna (I still remember my sister and cousins doing a routine to like a virgin to our granny 🤣).
I also think it’s brilliant she’s now dissed Kim kardashian and Kim’s too scared to fight back because of the fans.
If date a pop star you take the risk of being song fodder. Always makes me think of the song “you’re so vain, I bet you think this song is about you.”
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What will history say about this stuff? Melody lines that are flat, perfect for half singing on the walk onstage or even on a treadmill. Victim claiming lyrics. Effing auto tuned vocals. Obvs on the cover she’s lying in her pants. Just because. And now a mush of noughties indie folk with doubled vocals just to be sure. Oh but she’s a genius. Is this the world we created? What did we do it for?
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Don’t get her. To me she’s like clap for the NHS and football
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Are they on fire?
Anyway, rebuttal from Shooty?
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You’re not really her target market…
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Worst of all are middle aged men who claim to like her music. Normally performative ally typesand voraciously ambitious workplace back stabbers
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The song she did with Bon Iver was amazing. She's fine, not great. Admire what's she's achieved. And she annoys risky and is nasty ilk. Big winner for me, Clive.
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not a fan and I think it's the most bland pop (all today's is very bland and formulaic)
Auto tune should be banned. I'll give TayTay her due though, her live performance on Tiny Desk Music was actually quite good. I'll never buy her records or add her to a playlist but... the youth's seem to like her.
Recently, because I hate auto tune, I went back to singers I hadn't really paid attention to and discovered the most amazing song by Melanie (you'll know her from I got a brand pair of rollerskates) called "Lay down". Wow, what a voice she had. Sadly she died last month.
Still can't get into Joni Mitchell or Joan Baez though...
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Love is just a four letter word.
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Agree re autotune. Also, this was an interesting study.
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Westlife are screwed...
music publishers are also going back over live performances, some iconic performances and auto tuning them. I mean, Freddie Mercury at Live Aid has already been redone! They're quietly removing the originals from YouTube at the same time.
When a back catalogue is being "remastered", they are quantizing the drums and pitch correcting the vocals. This is really annoying me. Once you use a computer to correct a vocal, is it even the singers vocal anymore.
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She seems a smart operator who writes catchy songs but can't see why the adulation is as great as it is. But then I am a middle aged white man.
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Hawt.
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My 9 year old daughter is moderately obsessed with her so I end up listening to her in the car. I quite like her. I mean her music is not profound or anything and it’s hardly pushing boundaries but there are some catchy tunes, a little bit of humour and even self awareness and she is a reasonably positive role model on a scale of things. Good luck to her.
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Did you have to shell out for concert tickets, Donny?
Many partners here are complaining about having to do that. Some are complaining that their wife wouldn't tell them how much the tickets cost.
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Always hot with the Queen, Bertha.
That song was banging live.
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She (or her producers) have an ear for a catchy tune, lyrically she tends to be quite smart and is very good at conveying images. I think the folklore stuff is really good in some cases. Ain’t nothing wrong with pop done well and she does pop well. Only pseuds or right wingers get wound up by her.
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It's pop music ffs.
The same genre that brought you the Bay City Rollers.
As for why she's so popular, same reason the super bowl ad slots go up even when other ad slots go down, as things become more disparate, the few commonalities become wildly more popular.
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Thank you Alan.
There's just so much about TS that is bloodless. I mean, who gives a fvck if it's for kids, it's their parents who have to pay for it. Thousands upon thousands. No wonder you millennials are so infantilised.
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I ❤️❤️Melanie
Hardly anyone that I know.. knows of her…
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My fav Melanie song is Lovers Cross if you haven’t heard that Eddie.
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So far resisted shelling out for tickets. She is not coming to the desert. Looked at tickets for the London gig in the summer but it's like 800 quid a ticket (not even fancy tickets) which is insane.
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And if it’s the same production as the first leg you can watch it on YouTube never mind paying
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Scylla, it was the vocal range on Lay Down that blew me away. The lyrics are quite dark also.
I think she was bigger in America than she was in the UK, especially after Woodstock. The only song I knew her for was "I got a brand new pair of rollerskates" and everyone considered that a novelty song. Especially after the Worzells did their cover of it.
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Did a millenial eat your lunch or something cookie?
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I quite like her music (inc the Bon Iver track) but - and fortunately this isn't a problem for me - if you were a potential boyfriend surely you would just feel like you were lyric fodder ?
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Eddie.
My dad was a huge Melanie fan… grew up listening to her, Creedence, Fleetwood Dylan, Dr Hook, and the moody blues.
Mother used to torture us with Joan Baez and Nana M.
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In a world where twerking and singing about having a wet ass pussy is considered music….
Taylor is a pure goddess.
We should all be grateful that young women have a respectable role model to admire. Whether you like her music or not.
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£800 for a ticket. Think how many prom tickets you could buy for that!
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I’ve got to say my favourite song of TS new album is ‘the smallest man who ever lived’
Great song. Vicious.
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It’s a song quite obviously about Joe Alwyn.
‘You kicked out the stage lights, but you’re still performing
And in plain sight you hid, but you are what you did,
And I’ll forget you, but I’ll never forgive
The smallest man who ever lived’
Brilliant.
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It was a joke. I had no idea who Joe Alwyn is until I read the Wikipedia entry after reading your last post. Haven’t seen any of his movies or tv series.
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I know literally nothing about her apart from the fact that she appears to have a very poor judgment when it comes to men.
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Or perhaps men just fooking suck.
Generally.
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Not all.. men. Of course.
But an awful, awful, awful lot of them.
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The Tortured Poets Department: How Taylor Swift captured modern dating despair https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-68856232
How much longer will billionaire TS trade off her victimhood?
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Maybe till she makes another billion?
Why are you butt hurt over it?
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"In a world where twerking and singing about having a wet ass pussy is considered music….
Taylor is a pure goddess.
We should all be grateful that young women have a respectable role model to admire. Whether you like her music or not."
This is well put. I am not a big fan of her music (she'll live) but I like her as a role model for my daughter.
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I’m not, but with every rinse and repeat it’s less convincing as an artistic position. Does she have anything else she can write about?
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I don’t really understand why she inspires such strong feelings either way. But there’s nothing wrong with it, I’m just not the target audience. It’s good there’s lots of different music.
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Ps Poor Joe Alwyn. But he isn't a very good actor.
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Not to start a swfty fight but my daughter tells me the consensus is that the Smallest Man is about is about some bloke called Matty, not Joe. No idea who Matty is!
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Yeah the internet doesn’t agree with Scylla. She gets a lot of stuff wrong tbf
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"I’m not, but with every rinse and repeat it’s less convincing as an artistic position. Does she have anything else she can write about?"
You can probably stick to writing about David Bowie in italics, everyone already knows what you think and disregards it anyway.
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Matt Healy
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Spurius busking hard already this morning
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I find it a bit distasteful to use lyrics to mock every ex you’ve ever been with. I can understand the occasional song having a go at someone you have genuine beef with but, from what I gather, every song seems to be having a go at someone different.
Not a big fan of washing your dirty laundry in public (and getting the rest of the world to ridicule them too by singing along).
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They know the deal by now I would have thought jim
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Anyhow, aren’t these blokes all walkers?
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I’m not, but with every rinse and repeat it’s less convincing as an artistic position. Does she have anything else she can write about?
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You’ve clearly never listened to Evermore.
There are lots of things she writes about.
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https://youtu.be/2s5xdY6MCeI?si=YW1ImLqP-lEoB_8F
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https://youtu.be/IEPomqor2A8?si=jLZkq7zplNm77-FZ
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https://youtu.be/hP6QpMeSG6s?si=SM2ltpvx6mkXDtbC
So that’s a song about a house she bought, a murder and her grandmother.
But sure.. she only sings about breakups.
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Or if you prefer songs where she directly challenges the patriarchy there’s all ways the man…
Or where she writes how the music industry fooked her over ‘my tears richochet’ or her self awareness ‘anti -hero’
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The reason she’s ‘known’ for the break up songs is because they have been her biggest hits (so clearly people relate to them)
But they certainly do not represent the full depth of her songwriting.
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thought this was summoning friday night beers
rof was better when rofers drank together
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My 8 year old wanted singing lessons (in a bid to be a pop star). The singing teacher came out and thanked me for being the first 8 year old girl in the week to not to request Taylor Swift. She asked to sing Jolene and Teenage Dirtbag.
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*for her
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Scylla has this. She (or her writers) have a real way with a catchy tune and evocative lyrics (even on the break up songs) - I think that is what hits the kids as much as anything. It’s great pop music done well and there is nothing wrong with that. Ask the Beatles, Elton, Bowie etc etc
I also really think the two folk(ish) albums are really really good - you can see the influence of the dessners- a good companion piece is to listen to Lisa Hannigan At Swim which is them practising for Folklore (and is another great album, one even the sneering cookie might have time for)
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I guess the real question is why she can’t keep a man.
Joking
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isn’t it that men can’t keep her
she’s commitment averse
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I mean if you are a female billionaire… why buy a pig when you can get a lot of sausage for free…
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And cakers… while I get where you are coming from.
Isn’t it an amazing thing that she has clearly inspired an entire generation of 8 year old girls to sing?
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And has provided them with an enormous amount of material which isn’t that challenging vocally for them to learn?
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The message of taytay's exboyf oeuvre, seems to be "beshitgetbanged". Fair. Don't be shit.
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It is @scylla and once the teacher had planted the Taytay seed my daughter was singing it the following week!
I’m a fan. Little girls have Taylor in the same way we had Madonna (I still remember my sister and cousins doing a routine to like a virgin to our granny 🤣).
I also think it’s brilliant she’s now dissed Kim kardashian and Kim’s too scared to fight back because of the fans.
If date a pop star you take the risk of being song fodder. Always makes me think of the song “you’re so vain, I bet you think this song is about you.”
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I’d be happy to fvck her tbf
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heh @ the disliker
all posts selfliked for balance
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