Was just about to have a fight with work about working from home when covid came along and forced them to change their policy. They've nowt just announced a new sabbatical policy as I was about to approach my boss to try and negotiate some time off next year.
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are you some kind of academic in an ivory tower?
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Nope just someone who's spent nearly ten years slogging away with rarely more than a week off at a time who fancies a bit of time to go and do something a little unusual. I think I may sense another Atlantic crossing coming on or perhaps part of the Caribbean season.
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good lad
I’m still angling after that full season skiing, get my instructor qual
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Yes, fishing is probably a suitable sport for you - all things considered
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You've inspired me to look up our sabbatical policy and start dreaming.
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I'm debating between racing a boat across the Atlantic which would get me up to a nice round Atlantic crossings to date or walking up to Everest Base Camp. A friend has just done the latter so going to have a beer with him and see how he found it and how much it cost. The Atlantic though is probably cheaper as I suspect I'll just need to pay for flights and some accommodation before and after.
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Of those options, I'd go for the Caribbean season.
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I am curious as to how people like Clubman see this kind of thing...assuming he is who he says and is some kind of finance rich man.
I am very much on the Sails and Laz side of things regards like doing shit you want when you want and letting work get fooked if they have problems.
I see why it pisses off the clubmans of the world but I don't understand how they can stop it. Clubman is surely just a worthless manager if he genuinely cannot understand his employees' contributions without 'face time'.
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It's not even that. If you expect someone to work for twenty years without more than ever having two weeks off at a time you're either going to end up with a rather tired unenthused member of staff who ultimately is just going through the motions or someone who just leaves so that they can have some time off before starting a new job. I think it's cheaper in the long run to let people have a month of unpaid leave every few years and come back refreshed than it is to keep hiring new people.
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oh. if it's just a month of unpaid leave, presumably at an agreed time (?), then knock yourself out.
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It's not even that. If you expect someone to work for twenty years without more than ever having two weeks off at a time you're either going to end up with a rather tired unenthused member of staff who ultimately is just going through the motions or someone who just leaves so that they can have some time off before starting a new job. I think it's cheaper in the long run to let people have a month of unpaid leave every few years and come back refreshed than it is to keep hiring new people.
This times one hundred hard hard agree.
I used to have switch jobs every three years to be able to go and do fun stuff.
I would have been so much more motivated and they would have held on to me if I could have taken an unpaid time off.
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Often it's held out in front of you as a bit of a carrot. I had that in my last big company job (a FTSE50) and I finished a project and I was really keen to just not work with computers anymore for a while. Like really keen. Even the sound of computers booting up and the fans turning on pissed me off.
'oh no but you can only take a sabbatical if management allows it. We have new things for you to do'.
'yeah, I'm gone'.
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Yes Clubbers depending on length of service it's between 5 and 8 weeks unpaid every five years with the timing agreed by management. That's why I want to work up a plan so I can put a request in now to do it in early 2025 so there's no excuse that someone else has already got time off.
Buckaroo this is part of a package of new measures aimed at rewarding long service so I think they're fairly serious about trying to retain people and so it will be allowed. We've certainly allowed a few trainees a chunk of time off just after qualifying already.
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I don't really see a downside if it's unpaid. It's much more hassle if a good person leaves than having to adjust for them having an extended break. A well run org should be able to cope in the same way they should be able to manage mat leave.
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Sounds enlightened.
Millennials will no doubt push for paid leave. 🤪
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I'm a millennial. I don't push for paid leave. I don't give a toss. I get paid well when I work.
'work' being the operative term here. The majority of you gormless middle aged whelps wouldn't be any use even if you were napping in dirt and became fertilizer.
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Touché Buckers.
But us Boomers are the result of honest graft and endeavour over many years. 👍
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Are you indeed the result of honest graft over many years? And what have you learned in all these years?
(For reference, I argue a lot with my military father who was a 2 star and now in industry)
Good luck ;)
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Nearly 10 years slogging? Sails I always assumed you'd been shovelling this shit longer
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The trick is to change jobs. New challenge and time off between gigs of whatever duration you fancy/can afford.
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At the next performance review I'll tell my boss that I don't intend to stay past the end of the year, and that if it makes things easier I am ready to submit my resignation now with a standard notice period, but also happy to leave that a bit open-ended.
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Well yeah exactly.
It's probably slightly different for lawyers but for software people/engineers (like me) sometimes it can be really problematic if someone just ups and leaves.
(I have done this multiple times( not because of pay etc but just because like :this is quite annoying work and complicated and I became a programmer not to fix stupid shit that your vendor and your IT department have not done properly'
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I'm in the same industry BB and my place is pretty open to sabbaticals of 6 or 12 months. Someone did it recently at the same time as the wife's mat leave. You'd need to afford it, but there is no rule against picking up a bit of contract work in the meantime if you need to.
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You should have come to Australia. You get long service leave here. Paid.
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Vigntaine I’ve been doing it much longer but just ten years at the current place. Historically I’ve moved every few years and had a bit of a gap.
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shy bairns get nowt
back in 2007 I had 10 months off and my old place maintained my continuity of employment - which I suspect they regretted when corporate work stopped in 2008 …
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Hi snowfox
I mean I've done what I've done. I don't really feel the need to be overly weird about it but if you've something needs doing I can have a look.
What exactly is your industry? I lived in china for 5 years by the way there may be issues
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