I have long been a supporter but I think it has come to the end of the road. It started with nonsensical pro Brexit bias and continues to allow the right wing nutters who have fooked this country to hell and back to dominate its agenda. Either by direct bias or interpreting “balance” by allowing equal airspace to obvious nonsense. A Tory Chairman and Director General. fook off BBC your time is done you lickspittle spineless hopeless organisation.
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Bit of a shame really. The world service is just about the only soft power we have left.
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Agreed guy. I think two quick wins - abolish the licence fee and put it under ofcom
jurisdxito
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Alright Harry Potter
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Wow, I really thought this thread was Guy telling us about his special secret.
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the problem is the requirement that everyone involved with the BBC be required - even in their personal social media time - to tiptoe around in fear of being deemed by the censorious (usually) Right to have expressed a political opinion in breach of the daft requirement of strict impartiality.
The BBC should be editorially independent, and in their independent capacity it and its people should be free to express whatever opinions they like
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I always used to love seeing Priti Patel taking on the BBC
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More important for a Director General to remain apolitical than some football pundit.
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Laz the firm of which you are a partner, what does its social media policy say? I can guarantee it doesn’t say ‘you can tweet anything you want under your own name outside working hours’
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no, but it should
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That’s a different question. Lineker signed up to the bbc’s policy and has been warened sevwral times before. It’s a straight hr matter.
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But not for "Sir Alan" Sugar? Not for Andrew Neil? Not for Jeremy Clarkson when he was at the BBC?
And not for the Chairman? FAOD, even if the BBC guidelines don't say that its Chairman should refrain from bribing the government, he's still untenable because of what he did.
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I don’t think policies are really governing of what people *should* do, just what they may be required to do, Should is a moral concept. I’m rarely interested in what law or regulation say, which is usually the outcome of a compromised political process. I’m interested in how things should be. Our social media policy should impose no restrictions whatsoever on what our employees say on social media, beyond the restrictions imposed by law and provided they do not purport to be posting on behalf of the firm (and this should be an active purport - they should not be obliged constantly to disclaim posting on behalf of the firm or that their “opinions are their own”).
I feel the same about the ludicrously restrictive share dealing policies tbh. I worked for one firm whose policies just said: don’t break the law. That should suffice.
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Lineker has blatantly not done anything wrong but offend powerful vested interests, which in Britain - indeed nearly everywhere - are always conservative.
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FF, they should also be dealt with also. In fact just close the organization down?
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Who cares what he says? Why should anyone care about an ex footballers view on politics, even if they are a bit histrionic?
Let him say what he likes.
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Risky: is upset about people complaining (with some justification) that the government uses language reminiscent of 1930s to stoke hatred towards immigrants
Also Risky: wants people "dealt with"
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Wot Law Person said.
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either what Lineker has done breaches the guidelines, or they did not
if they did not breach the guidelines, then this is a political witch hunt, most likely motivated by his high salary and left-wing views which he is entitled to have and talk about because he is not a news reporter.
if they did breach the guidelines, then it is clear that a lot of other people over the years have done so by doing the same thing. countless examples have been given, such as Prue Leith, Alan Sugar, and Andrew Marr. The selective enforcement of laws and rules is highly problematic, and is reminiscent of a lot of Third World governments
(fyi that is the hallmark of a lot of Third World countries, the problem is not that they don’t have enough laws. in fact, the opposite is true, they have a lot of laws, so that they catch basically any kind of activity and selective enforcement allows for political control and retribution. we in the UK are heading that way).
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so, in a way, debate about whether or not he has breached the guidelines or not is not really relevant to the reason this is so sinister
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Good analysis.
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They still produce excellent drama and documentaries and should focus on that.
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If you don't want football presenters to call out your use of nazi rhetoric, could try not using nazi rhetoric.
Just a thought.
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yeah good post jamie
afraid u won’t find the incurably tribal acknowledging it tho
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every bit of what Davos said
let’s not forget that the root cause of this farrago is an absolutely disgusting government using absolutely disgusting language to promote an absolutely disgusting policy agenda designed to prop up its support among an ever diminishing small minority of the population some of whom hold absolutely disgusting views.
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The beeb’s humbling by this right wing liberal media hating government is near complete. I’ve been saying for years on here that News is fvcked fyi. I said during the World Cup and last week Lineker was positioning himself to be bigger than his job. Nobody gives a fvck what he thinks about politics, and he sounds like a dick making an entirely trivial and obvious point which to anyone with any political consciousness is trite. The point is most of his normal audience are totally ignorant of politics and he’s got a platform to wind up the government. What an utter bag of dicks all round.
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Unfortunately Jamie you don’t know about the enforcement against others as they may well have been dealt with privately and not felt the need to spew their guts over Twitter about it
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In fact, that is highly likely.
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this is not true
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the polls say it is sun the polls say it is
chug on those polls
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Link please, every poll I’ve seen puts immigration at the top with the NHS. Happy to have my position changed.
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TBH the sickening thing for me was listening to Question Time and hearing Fiona Bruce jump in once again to defend the Tories. About Boris Johnson's father's record of domestic violence:
It's incredible to me that Fiona Bruce and/or the producers telling her to say this have not been sacked. Tory bias on Question Time has been obvious for years, but minimising serious domestic violence in this way is awful.
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