Did anyone genuinely believe in 2010 that 13 years of Tozza rule would lead us back here again? I did not vote Tory and never would but even I am surprised at this fairly spectacular achievement: Strikes, food rationing, plummeting standards of living, labour shortages, spiralling inflation, collapsing public services, uncontrolled illegal immigration. Impressive stuff. Its almost as if they were trying.
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The Dirty Old Man of Europe
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But we've taken back control of a load of things that we never lost control of so it's all been worth it.
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Yes. Yes I did.
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It's not that bad!
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BACK IN 2010 I COULD NOT HAVE IMAGINED THAT THE CONSERVATIVES WOULD BE ABLE TO ACHIEVE SO MUCH IN 13 YEARS…
AND I CAN’T WAIT TO SEE WHAT THEY’RE ABLE TO ACHIEVE IN THE NEXT 13!!
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Why are people still tarring the 2010 Liberal/Conservative administration with this same brush? Literally none of adverse things listed above existed in 2015.
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Obligatory
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Dux, the 2010-15 administration instituted austerity that fooked public services and slowed our recovery.
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OH HERE WE GO: AND I SUPPOSE YOU WOULD RATHER THAT THE CONSERVATIVES HAD TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF RECORD LOW BORROWING RATES AND INVESTED AT A TIME WHEN THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN LITTLE RISK OF CROWDING OUT PRIVATE INVESTMENT WOULD YOU?!?
WELL THANK GOD THEY DIDN’T AS I UNDERSTAND EVERYONE NOW ADMITS THAT AUSTERITY WAS A REALLY GOOD IDEA WHICH SERVED THIS COUNTRY WELL AND HAS HAD LONG-LASTING EFFECTS!!
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Is that Boris, or is he just the sick man of England?
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Clegg blew decades of Lib Dem hard work. Whattaaunt.
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It’s funny how an unprecedented two year shutdown. Of the economy never seen before can affect things eh guy
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Yes, dettol, and the UK was the only country affected by that!
Russia's economy will perform better than the UK's this year and it's in the middle of a war.
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Did you know the uk had the fastest growth in the g7 in 2022 iguana? Plus all the things the op listed are happening in other countries anyway
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I DON’T LIKE THAT CHART IT IS VERY MISLEADING WHY CAN’T IT JUST SAY THAT THE UK HAD THE FASTEST GROWTH IN THE G7 IN 2022 LIKE DETTOL SAYS?!?
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[DELETE FENCE FOAL’S CHART]
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Yes, Covid was certainly massively mishandled.
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As many of us said at the time
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by the tozzas.
mishandled, by the tozzas
the key bit being the presence of tozzas
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Why, what happened after 2015 that was so catastrophic?
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Oracle, every stated labour policy during the lockdown would have made it worse. They wanted longer lockdowns and more money paid out. But yes; the tories are to blame tooo
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i don’t care about hypothetical labour khunts doing hypothetical wot ifs
the fact is the tozzas r entirely responsible and neither u nor i can determine wot ne other party would have done in powe - we only judge by wot actually happened.
and wot actually happened is the most corrupt, self-interested, hypocritical bunch of incompetents fooked up our country well b4, starting well b4 covid and continuing throughout it, and u kno it. fact.
doesn’t matter how many times u try 2 hypothesise about wot a theoretically worse bunch of muppets might have done, the only conceivable scenario is that the tozzas have dunnit
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Nonsense oracle. We can judge by what they say they would have done at the time. How else are you to compare?
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er u don’t
the fact is no1 could possibly, conceivably, practically, physically, philosophically or in ne other way b worse than the tozzas
they’v taken a bad situation and fooked it up, hard. then they’v taken the fooked up situation, they’v ransacked it, and they’v guaranteed the worst outcome.
they r totally corrupt as well as actively incompetent.
literally nething would b better than them.
even corbyn
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Ermmm...
VIP Lane
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Lies expressed with fervour and typos are still lies. Risky you're a fanatic. Nobody cares what you say dear. Just shhh.
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Royalty, are you trying to deny that labour called for longer and harsher lockdowns and more furlough payments?
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They called for quicker and therefore shorter lockdowns HTH now fvck off
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What threeeps said, especially the last bit
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YOU REALLY THINK THAT LOCKING DOWN EARLIER WHEN COVID HADN’T SPREAD SO WIDELY WOULD HAVE MEANT THE LOCKDOWNS COULD HAVE BEEN SHORTER?!?
THAT’S CRAZY TALK: BORIS JOHNSON WAS PERFECT AND WAS ENTIRELY RIGHT TO DELAY!!
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THANKS TO THE CONSERVATIVE PARTY’S VIP LANE FOR TORY DONORS, FRIENDS AND PEERS, THE RIGHT SORT OF PEOPLE WERE GIVEN BILLIONS OF POUNDS OF TAXPAYERS MONEY!!
WOULD YOU RATHER YOUR MONEY HAD GONE TO THE WRONG SORT OF PEOPLE?!?
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Lockdowns happened across Europe, in most countries they happened earlier (as Labour were calling for) and lifted far earlier. You can argue lockdowns were overkill, maybe you are right, but given the prevailing wisdom at the time was they were necessary the evidence was clear that by going early they did not need to last as long. Going late is why UK suffered the double whammy of a relatively high casualty rate AND a high economic hit. This is a direct result of Boris dithering.
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That’s completely wrong threepers.
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Also guy what you say is wrong about European lockdowns being lifted earlier (in many cases)
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No risky, you are wrong
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NO! BORIS WAS NOT DITHERING HE WAS DECISIVELY THINKING ABOUT WHAT TO DO FOR LONGER!!
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No I’m not royalty. How short some of your memories are.
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Ok risky, so why did we take a bigger economic hit than most then?
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Yes you are wrong risky.
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Because we spaffed far more money
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We = corrupt tozzas
Spaffed = stole
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Yes because the lockdowns lasted longer….
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Although I agree that PPE payments were a scandal as were the business loans made without adequate checks to 1000s of shell companies
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There you go guy
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Money "spaffed" has no impact on GDP, where we are massively lagging behind all other G7 economies still. The reason for this is COVID was a convenient 2 year smokescreen for the damage Brexit was causing on top of Osborne's idiotic public disinvestment.
COVID corruption and fraud is nowhere near the damage done by disinvesting in education and the economy generally since 2010. The cost of it could have been covered by cancelling the triple lock. Indeed, most of the shortfalls people are whining about could be covered by removing the primary residence exemption, removing higher rate pension relief and forcing people with assets to pay (or fund a fully funded insurance scheme) for elderly care. I wonder why these are not employed?
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So you are saying that Labour also would have paid out billions to their mates for substandard PPE and created loan schemes without adequate checks? You have no clue if that it is true.
The only thing we know Labour would have done differently is enter lockdowns sooner, which international comparisons clearly showed meant they could be shorter.
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THE CONSERVATIVE PARTY ARE CAREFUL STEWARDS OF THIS GREAT NATION’S FINANCES AND THERE WAS NOTHING WRONG WITH THE VIP LANE OR ANY OF THEIR SCHEMES
AND IN ANY CASE THERE’S NO POINT CRYING OVER SPILLED MILK!
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Lol at your first line!
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So risky, now we have all agreed you are wrong, where do we go from here?
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The ppe corruption is disgusting but labour we’re clear they would have had longer and more expensive furlough and other payments which dwarfed any ppe spending.
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Where we go royalty, is that you guys continue to suffer a f’ed economy for the next couple of years, worsening over the next five to ten years of a starmer govt.
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No they were not clear they would have had longer and more expensive furlough and other payments. Wrong again.
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keir starmer wanted to cancel christmas!!!
whereas under boris’ plan we all got to…. wait hang on….
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Oh dear royalty. There are dozens of reports like this from different parts of the pandemic
https://amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/aug/01/extend-furlough-subsidies-or-suffer-mass-job-losses-uk-warned
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Risky, you utter moron, they would have had earlier and shorter lockdowns requring less furlough overall. You can't use their reaction to the tozza cockups as evidence for what would have happened if they had managed the pandemic themselves.
You fool. So wrong.
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AGAIN WITH THIS CRAZY NOTION THAT LOCKING DOWN EARLIER BEFORE COVID HAS HAD AS MUCH TIME TO SPREAD EXPONENTIALLY MEANS THE LOCK DOWN CAN BE SHORTER AS YOU ARE DEALING WITH FAR LESS CASES!!
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They might well have been earlier. They certainly wouldn’t have been shorter.
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Wrong again risky. On a roll today.
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Even if I was wrong today, which I’m not, it’s better than being wrong every day of your life, which you are
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Don't get tetchy risky. This is a friendly place.
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I wonder how long it will be before you refer to my dead mother again, ‘friend’
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OH HOW SAD DID SHE LIVE TO MEET HER GRANDSON WHO YOU MADE UP?!?
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So tetchy.
I wonder how long it will be before you make up a dead wife again?
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She did live to meet her grandchildren thankfully. I posted a picture of them on wang’s thread about going to the beach
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This is a stock photo and not my imaginary children obvs
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Lol. What to believe?
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Easy, not you.
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Doesn’t really work royalty does it, when there have been two conflicting narratives given
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The lockdowns should have been HARDER and LONGER
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Risky, please don't delude yourself that anyone cares much if you have any specific configuration of real or imaginary relatives. I hope this doesn't cause any issues with your main character syndrome.
It is just fun to take the piss when you lose track of your lies.
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You seem to care greatly as you keep commenting.
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Altho concerned Josip hasn’t shown up yet
compo face
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Please see the last line of my 11:51. Posting is not the same as 'caring'.
Now go home and get your fvcking shine box
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"Even if I was wrong today, which I’m not, it’s better than being wrong every day of your life, which you are"
sickest.
burn.
ever.
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Well this thread (with all the usual suspects) has aged terribly.
“The net result of all this is that by 2022, the UK was not the outlier within the G7 in terms of the damage done by the pandemic. In fact, the UK economy was hit pretty much in line with the other major European nations.”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-66680188
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I 100% believed it which is why I’ve never once voted for the doss twots at any level
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"...the upward revision could now mean that the UK economy is performing much better than Germany and is only just behind France and Italy when the ONS releases its latest figures."
I'm sure the usual suspects will happily admit their error in attributing the UK's "worse recovery from Covid" to Brexit.
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The Labour Party were also banging the ‘worst economy in G7’ drum, just as they were with ‘most deaths from covid in the world’ before that also got discredited. Way of the political world, unfortunately.
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The UK is doing better than the rest of Europe, the economy is much bigger than it was pre pandemic
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Marxists/ declinists in the ONS got it wrong
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Peston disagreed and I’ll take his word over yours if it’s all the same Horace.
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He disagrees with the ONS?
how can he
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So Peston is doubling down on the original error of the ONS. Right you are carry on
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When I am world dictator, I am banning economists, along with the astrologers, spiritualists, Take That, and homeopaths. A useless burden on the earth's resources.
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Peston went mad when his wife died and now trades in alarmist bollox. A great pity.
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Peston loved the ‘worst in the G7 because of Brexit’ narrative. Must be very upsetting for him to let it go. Of course, if any pro Brexit journo queried post Brexit ONS figures for being too negative, they’d get hammered.
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if we r in the business of throwing out unscientific fantasist, gr7 - so add brexters, tozzas, rightwhinging lunatics and the gammony cabal of rof
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Threads like this illustrate why you lot are grinding your way to old age. Life for you is an encyclopedia of complaints rather than a daily opportunity to trade towards something better. The stench of plodderdom is almost overwhelming. I’m off to a lithe show.
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Quite enjoying the mildly right of centre pile on. Very unusual for our Ilk.
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heh @ runnersknee thinking everyone involved in british policy making js a “marxist” especially if he disagrees with them
yes luv
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Why would brexters be necessary in a Sceptatorship? Wouldn't be a need for the EU either. Would all be at my command. Muahahahaha.
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