London to Birmingham is 100 miles so it is averaging around 120 mph - less than the 140mph the current trains are capable of doing if they improved the signalling (or ok lets say about the same if you take into account speeding up and slowing down). WTAF?
Or if everyone got on a train at London that left 16 mins early and only half the people between London and Birmingham got on, there'd be no need for HS2.
Manchester to London in 67 minutes would be impressive but simply doesn't makes sense given the trains go via Birmingham and the Birmingham to London leg alone is 49 minutes
Moves capacity of existing Victorian era lines into a faster separate line and allows freight to make better use of existing trains which is much better for the environment as well as making everyone’s life a bit easier.
Its not about capacity and it’s not about speed and it’s not about the environment. It’s about creating jobs up and down the country.
Basically it’s the labour motorway job creation scheme but adapted for the rail. We do need to upgrade the lines anyway so rather than mess around delaying existing commutes, creating a whole new line makes a lot of sense.
Manchester to London in 67 minutes would be impressive but simply doesn't makes sense given the trains go via Birmingham and the Birmingham to London leg alone is 49 minutes
It depends on the intermediate stops. The 67 min Manchester trains don't actually stop at Birmingham, they go direct to London. The 49 min Birmingham trains stop at Old Oak and Birmingham Interchange.
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London to Birmingham is 100 miles so it is averaging around 120 mph - less than the 140mph the current trains are capable of doing if they improved the signalling (or ok lets say about the same if you take into account speeding up and slowing down). WTAF?
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If everyone just caught a train 32 mins before their original departure there'd be no need for HS2.
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Assuming it ever gets built, those are much faster journey times than I thought were planned.
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not very fast - just like hyoo.
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London to Manchester in just over an hour is pretty fooking good tbf
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Or if everyone got on a train at London that left 16 mins early and only half the people between London and Birmingham got on, there'd be no need for HS2.
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I don't know about your figures, but (despite its name) the project is now more about capacity than speed.
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Manchester to London in 67 minutes would be impressive but simply doesn't makes sense given the trains go via Birmingham and the Birmingham to London leg alone is 49 minutes
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Manchester to London is already only about 2 hrs.
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Moves capacity of existing Victorian era lines into a faster separate line and allows freight to make better use of existing trains which is much better for the environment as well as making everyone’s life a bit easier.
Its not about capacity and it’s not about speed and it’s not about the environment. It’s about creating jobs up and down the country.
Basically it’s the labour motorway job creation scheme but adapted for the rail. We do need to upgrade the lines anyway so rather than mess around delaying existing commutes, creating a whole new line makes a lot of sense.
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It depends on the intermediate stops. The 67 min Manchester trains don't actually stop at Birmingham, they go direct to London. The 49 min Birmingham trains stop at Old Oak and Birmingham Interchange.
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