If Jeremy Corbyn had soundly beaten Boris Johnson with a majority of over 50 MPs...
You With The Face 02 Nov 23 14:10
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...how would the country and the world be different to how it is now?

probably not materially different seeing as the Boris and Corbyn manifestos were almost identical 

would have been a harder Brexit 

less UK support for Ukraine

probably similar to Spain's position on Palestine 

public sector would have gotten heftier pay hikes but there is only so much room in the budget

probably more tax on the rich,

the main difference would probably be that the Conservative party wouldn't have been purged of its moderates and left with just frothing nutters to draw from for it's core team and so wouldn't have been so badly tarnished by the cavalcade of scandals that has dogged it for the last 4 years

Surely a cabinet including Richard Burgon, Dianne Abbott and Ian Lavery would have conspired to have dropped at least one absolutely ridiculous clanger.  Like Partygate only much much much worse.

Corbyn was unelectable so nothing to say there. Gordon Brown's ego is why everything in the UK since 2006 has happened. If Blair stays he scrapes a win over Cameron, gets through the worst of the GFC without destroying the economy by disinvestment, never puts one of the most important and complex socio-economic decisions to the public unbundled from choice of govt, continues education, education, education to result in one of the best educated workforces in Europe and massively reduces inequality, reforming the NHS without pure privatisation dogma. 

In the meantime, the Tories repeat IDS/Howard/Hague to become totally unelectable, with the ERG joining UKIP to turn it into a LD level party. One nation Tories join LDs and they don't get the kicking Clegg administers. 

  • No Truss penalty for borrowers
  • Nationalised railways
  • Nationalised energy companies
  • Possibly nationalised water companies
  • Higher minimum wage
  • Much more generous immigration policy
  • Net Zero would still be on track and possibly strengthened 
  • Foreign policy broadly the same but more pro-Palestinian

 

Not sure about the harder brexit, although nobody knows what Corbo really thought about it. Deffo a brexiter but what flava?

Nobody could have been worse at dealing with covid than blowjo and co. 

He would have been worse on ukraine and israel / gaza would have been his downfall. 

More than likely he would have blown up before now anyway.

Our waterways would be less polluted and he would have windfall taxed the shite out of the energy companies. 

OH MY GOD!!

If Blair stays he scrapes a win over Cameron, gets through the worst of the GFC without destroying the economy by disinvestment, never puts one of the most important and complex socio-economic decisions to the public unbundled from choice of govt, continues education, education, education to result in one of the best educated workforces in Europe and massively reduces inequality, reforming the NHS without pure privatisation dogma. 

THIS IS TRULY NIGHTMARISH!!

Interesting

No Truss tax but we would be paying some sort of moron risk premium 

Think brexit would have been softer because labour doesn’t support it, so lower inflation and interest rates. 

Hospitals, schools etc probably less terrible

Foreign policy would be a car crash

Tbf I think he would have imploded by now anyways so probably Starmer govt but a bit earlier

the answers are

economy would be performing much more strongly

covid deaths would have been materially fewer

inequalities would be lower

public services would be in much better shape

we’d be significantly less of a total joke internationally 

Love how quickly Ducks thinks you can nationalise things although I guess Jezza might have considered somehow outlawing private owners having any recourse to the courts over the seizure of their assets.

Laz he'd definitely have been up for training Hamas the noble Palestinian freedom fighters.

 

The country would probably be well and truly bust  by now if John McDonnell had become chancellor - worse than Truss in terms of plans for uncosted spending!

if John McDonnell had become chancellor - worse than Truss in terms of plans for uncosted spending!‘

Both agents of hostile foreign powers. Although Mortgage Karen more of a useful idiot.

  • Private property abolished.
  • Replaced with some kind of centrally administered allocation system. Not sure what it would have been called, but along the lines of 'From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs', or something.
  • God Save the King dropped as national anthem in favour of Oh, Jeremy Corbyn.
  • In unconnected events, politicians stop wearing proper suits, doing up their ties and singing the national anthem.
  • Ministry of Agriculture renamed Department of the March of Hardship.
  • United Kingdom enters into formal alliance with Venezuela.

John McDonnell is a very clever bloke, he knows how markets work. None of the spending plans he put forward were in fundable and we would definitely not be bust.

People hate McDonnell because he is a Marxist, but tbh the country would benefit from a bit of Marxism in some ways.

McDonnell wasn't economically bright at all - as he had no real answer to what the capital markets would have done to the value of sterling and the knock on effect on inflation, the cost of government borrowing and the cost of living generally if many of those Corbynista policies had been implemented.  

Would have made what we have gone through in the last 18 months look like a fairly stable period in history by comparison.

‘he had no real answer to what the capital markets would have done to the value of sterling and the knock on effect on inflation, the cost of government borrowing and the cost of living‘

Heh - yeah just imagine…

Neither Team Corbyn nor Tean Johnson were particularly long on administrative competence, so the main difference would have been the degree of misappropriation of public funds around PPE procurement.