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Why would you do this?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/09/18/braun-advertises-mens-trimmers-using-trans-model/

It seems that there are some very disturbed individuals in charge of  marketing and ad campaigns  in large companies.

Why would you do this?

Marshall Hall 18 Sep 23 20:18

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well, if you're a pretty thick rich kid who has done the pay to win private school, cushy tick the box classics uni course, they you're career options are limited

there's politics of course but the waiting list if long and heaven forfend you have to spend a few years looking up wikipedia for Michael Gove or something like that

so you can basically do PR or Marketing (which are pretty much the same thing) and in that space you either make an advert that is catchy and memorable (which probably requires talent) or you can tell your customer that what they need is an edgy advert that will generate online "discussion" and "go viral" because conservatives are easy to trigger (depressingly true as the thread's existence confirms) 

whether this actually sells product is not going to be known for months at best and in the meantime you can show lazy graphs of automated tracking that shows clicks and comments on youtube or twitter and claim lots of brand recognition achieved for your client

hilariously, said retard rich kid has almost accidentally managed to equally exploit, Trans person, Frothing Conservative and Gullible Megacorp for a bucket of cash

I love capitalism, you would never get this hilairty in a communist or theocratic country 

It’s Braun - owned by P&G. Neither exactly in need of any brand recognition.

Rather than your happy ending for them, I’ll wager that the ad agency, and head of marketing for Braun, will be shown the door by Xmas.

Marshall - I think it is more about brand positioning than brand recognition. It's about reaching out to a younger, more progressive audience. 

It was quite a risky move but the anti trans types have gifted Braun something of an open goal in making a really stupid complaint about cosmetic surgery in relation to an advert that had nothing to do with cosmetic surgery and doesn't even allow a figleaf to cover a blatantly transphobic position. 

 

The new "progressive" generation haven't realised yet that "gender-affirming care" involves chopping breasts from and sterilising largely autistic gay kids, who haven't been given sufficient medical care and don't realise what they're doing to themselves.  Hopefully at some stage the realisation will hit, and we'll look back at this kind of bonkers advertising as something we're all shocked supposedly mainstream intelligent people didn't think was absolutely stark raving mental.

What if the person isn’t trans and has had cancer surgery as men can get breast cancer too?

Wouldn't be as good a narrative to fuel the social meeja "progressive" likes and opposing fury Sails.

in relation to an advert that had nothing to do with cosmetic surgery

Good point!

Why do you think so many mainstream businesses are featuring double mastectomy scars in adverts which have nothing to do with cosmetic surgery, or indeed any surgery, in massive disproportion to the number of trans-identified people who have this surgery?  It's a toughie.

involves chopping breasts from and sterilising largely autistic gay kids, who haven't been given sufficient medical care and don't realise what they're doing to themselves

pinko u absolute aunt, i happen 2 have deep misgivings about these types of surgery but this sort of oppressive, bigoted, offensive bullshit has no place in the deb7 - u r worse and more offensive than the dogmatic nutjobs who r aggressively pro trans

and we all kno this is simply because ur entirely selfish and irremediably bitter, not because u give 2 hoots about women let alone “largely autistic gay kids”

pinko u absolute aunt, i happen 2 have deep misgivings about these types of surgery but this sort of oppressive, bigoted, offensive bullshit has no place in the deb7

Please confirm which bit is oppressive, bigoted, offensive, bullshit or - perhaps even better - wrong.

dude u “literally” wrote that trans ppl r “largely autistic gay kids”

on wot possible level could u think that is not bigoted, offensive and bullshit???

(all neatly summing up 2, even better, wrong)

it meets those requirements in isolation as well as in context. it’s disgusting and ur an abhorrent individual 4 writing it and not even recognising it.

and as 4 oppressive - dude, ur vigorously advoc7ing preventing these ppl live in a way they want 2 - that is oppressive. that it needs 2 b balanced with the needs of others is the substance of the deb7, but as i wrote above it’s pretty difficult 2 identify ne realistic suggestion u actually care about ne1 else 

Lol, proof of the terrible harm that allowing trans people to exist causes - they sometimes appear in adverts!

Time to grow up children, there's nothing under your bed

Face I don't believe the advertiser has confirmed either way and viewers and commentators have simply assumed.  They have made the assumption that generates the most outrage.

"The new "progressive" generation haven't realised yet that "gender-affirming care" involves chopping breasts from and sterilising largely autistic gay kids,"

What. A. P.

How are people liking this comment????

Reported

Just a reminder you can disagree with certain things and not be a little beta male P about it 

 

"...sterilising largely autistic gay kids, who haven't been given sufficient medical care and don't realise what they're doing to themselves"

Where is your evidence that this is happening to kids?  Lord knows, there is enough concerning stuff that is easily provable about the trans "movement" (as our resident TRA psyhcho nutjob, Warren, demonstrates, pretty much every time he posts) without resorting to making sh1t up.

Also, why would anyone have a problem with a trans man being used to advertise a trimmer?  I mean, hair is hair and (this may come as a shock to you, so you may want to have a sit down) women use razors and trimmers too.  Presumably, you would have been perfectly fine, mildly titillated, even, if the ad had featured a woman using the same trimmer to tidy up her bikini line?

Cru I think you're onto something and should be in advertising.  I can see an Australian beer advert with a burly lady road train driver trimming an enormous bush with some kind of hedge trimmer before cracking open a stubby of something.

And, for what it's worth, I think it's a good thing that they are showing someone with actual surgery scarring - I would have thought that those of you who feel that the way to deal with trans issues is to scare the absolute bejeezus out of anyone who might be thinking of transitioning would revel in the fact that there is a vivid, realistic portrayal of the permanent and "ugly" reminders of breast removal.

dude u “literally” wrote that trans ppl r “largely autistic gay kids”

No I didn't.

I said that people having surgery are largely autistic gay kids.  Read the Cass report.

"Trans ppl" is such a broad umbrella term that it is meaningless.

I would have thought that those of you who feel that the way to deal with trans issues is to scare the absolute bejeezus out of anyone who might be thinking of transitioning would revel in the fact that there is a vivid, realistic portrayal of the permanent and "ugly" reminders of breast removal.

Like normalising removing healthy breasts by portraying the scars in the best possible positive light, including the cartoon versions of recent advertising campaigns rather than the brutal reality?  okaaaayyyyy

Also, why would anyone have a problem with a trans man being used to advertise a trimmer?

Because the current model of "gender-affirming care" is leading to irreversable harm being caused to children, and normalising the removal of healthy breasts in children without proper therapy and exploration in advance is harmful.

 

You With The Face19 Sep 23 09:59 Reply| Report

dude u “literally” wrote that trans ppl r “largely autistic gay kids”

No I didn't.

I said that people having surgery are largely autistic gay kids.

ur gonna have 2 do a little more than just link the report 2 evidence ur (disgusting and blatantly bigoted) suggestion that ppl undergoing this sort of surgery r “largely autistic gay kids”

cos i have flicked the report and at no point does it say that. in fact, it specifically says the opposite

u abhorrent, lying, aunt

cos i have flicked the report and at no point does it say that. in fact, it specifically says the opposite

Course you have and course it does.

Look at the comorbitities of the children being referred.

Sergio, people like you are the reason this issue isn't being discussed properly.

The fact that anyone who thinks that sterilising children without proper therapy first might be a problem is described in the way you've described me is the reason there is a bigger problem than there should be.

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You With The Face19 Sep 23 10:14 Reply| Report

cos i have flicked the report and at no point does it say that. in fact, it specifically says the opposite

Course you have and course it does.

Look at the comorbitities of the children being referred

u utter, utter fookwit (as well as being an abhorrent lying aunt)

p.32 - c. one third have autism or other neurodiversity

so let’s break down ur comment

“largely autistic” - wrong. less than a third r autistic and c. a third have autism or other neurodiversity. so ur comment is manifestly wrong

“largely… kids” - wrong. the vast maj of people undergoing surgery r adults

“largely autistic… kids” - wrong. by definition.

“largely… gay” - wrong. the report does not cover their sexuality.

moreover, y does their sexuality, in ur bigoted head, have a bearing on their ability 2 comprehend and consent 2 surgery? oh let me guess.

so all round wrong, not least ur mistake thinking i hadn’t flicked it 2 check. u fooking wrong bigoted aunt

You With The Face19 Sep 23 10:18 Reply| Report

Sergio, people like you are the reason this issue isn't being discussed properly.

The fact that anyone who thinks that sterilising children without proper therapy first might be a problem is described in the way you've described me is the reason there is a bigger problem than there should be.

fook off u lying aunt.

thinking children should have proper therapy is a perfectly reasonable position.

u being a disgusting bigot based on ur presumptions about gay and autistic ppl is not a simple and sensible position. ur exactly the problem - sensible ppl on the rational side of the deb7 r having their position poisoned by ur bigotry.

u don’t givva fook about children u just want 2 hate ppl

I do love the morons citing the Cass report though.  That was the report that recommended significantly increasing the scope and availability of care for transgender kids because not enough of them were able to access the current facilities.

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