Uxbridge and South Ruislip

Yougov MPR has it narrow Tory victory, but within the margin of error 

how joyous would it be to see Bozza lose his seat

https://yougov.co.uk/uk-general-election-2019/

Imagine if they had just enough seats (326), but boris didn't get elected.

Does Simon Simpleton, MP of Buggle-on-Wobbleaunt stand down for a by-election?  What that gives the other parties the workable majority to band together?  Do the Tories have a "gosh, maybe Boris isn't the hero we need" moment and select another?

Hi your Maj.... remember that oik that poor people think is posh?  you know, the dishevelled tubby chap that lied to you?  Well, we'd like to make him a Lord...

Doesn’t Raab have a biggish majority? Esher just sounds mega tory to me. Ruislip, I was surprised originally to learn it was a tory seat tbh.

Wouldn't they just enlord him?

While there is a somewhat out-of-date precedent for PMs governing from the Lords, that has by convention not happened for over a century and the Cabinet Manual states that the prime minister always sits in the House of Commons. There is no rule that a PM must resign if they lose their seat so it's more likely he would bungle along until he can hold a by-election in six weeks time.

Issue for Boris is, if he loses his seat it would be likely there would no Tory majority. Not sure he is that popular almost Tory MPs and he was elected as a leader as a 'winner'. Also no doubt there would be many back stabbers in cabinet ready to take the leadership. In theory he could be made a Lord also.

If he lost his seat and the Tories were government then yes some MP would be persuaded to stand down. 

if it was a 326 bare majority, a tory would have to stand down for 6 weeks changing the balance, meaning in that time other parties could conceivably form a govt which would subsequently become a minority govt should boris win his by-election.

 

Raab is not liked and the lib-dems are within the margin of error in his constituency.  Falling to permit Harry Dunn's father into the hustings really played badly.

Doesn’t Raab have a biggish majority? Esher just sounds mega tory to me

Its also mega remain and the Lib Dems have put up a strong candidate. It will be close but I suspect Raab will retain his seat with a much lower majority than he has now. Fingers crossed he gets the boot though - it would provide some consolation for the overall Tory majority. 

By elections dont always go the governemts way. They would need to pick a very safe tory seat as in 6 weeks everyone would want to take Boris down. Also he would need not to piss off the local tories. 

I am slightly surprised he didn't move seats. However Raab is much more likely to go than BJ

By elections dont always go the governemts way. They would need to pick a very safe tory seat as in 6 weeks everyone would want to take Boris down. Also he would need not to piss off the local tories. 

I am slightly surprised he didn't move seats. However Raab is much more likely to go than BJ

TM, exPM turned up to a swimming gala in my mate's village in her constituency.  She had the honour of starting the first heat.

She took the microphone, grimace-smiled at the assembled people and said "Ready!Steady! START!!".  And everyone face-palmed and muttered - "it's GO - ready, steady - go!". 

Friends live in May's constituency and said she was a very very good constituency MP even when PM would go out of her way to go to the schools, local event and help local residents.

Still a crap PM.

I live in Raab's constituency and have just voted lib dem as I did last time as I can't stand hi and what he stands for.

He is in trouble if recent data is correct laugh

as I have said elsewhere, I would not give a shit who won or lost the election if both Johnson and Raaaab lost their seats.

Yes, even if it meant Prime Minister Gove, i hate them both that much

Last polling I can find on Raab had this:

CON: 46% (-13) LDEM: 41% (+24) LAB: 9% (-11)

It was 30th November, i.e. before Swinson really started tanking the LibDems in the polls.

Anyone have an update on that?

Have m7s in Esher.  It is very pro remain iirc and most of the old school blue rinsers cashed out years ago to city types with families.

Raab is very very hated locally and the lib dem campaign there has been huge (it's been quite big here compared to any other parties tbh and this would require an absolute sea-change to go yellow).

Reckon Guildford is up for grabs.  Lots of yellow when I was there at lunchtime in the high st.  Also some very soggy labour campaigners outside the spectrum (a polling booth there I think).

Interesting times m7s.

Compact populations, plus it is something they actually try to do (don’t know why), plus as they are generally very safe seats the results aren’t delayed by recounts.

It is usually South Sunderland or Newcastle nowadays but for yonks it was somewhere like Castle Point in Essex.

Maybe the council there just decided they couldn’t be bothered spending the money on it anymore or the boundary changed to make the constituency bigger.

Its something to do with adding up the opposition votes v number of votes cast which is a lot quicker than adding up all the labour votes

But don't they read out all of the votes cast at the declaration? How can they do that unless they have counted all of the votes?

to be fair to LK - she will be very busy today in a northern city denouncing labour rigging...even before the vote counting has begun. 

 

she is doing an importantjob of being the liaison journo for the beebs with the johnson government

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Compact populations, plus it is something they actually try to do (don’t know why)

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Northern councilor once told me it saved £££. If the count is over sooner there is less overtime to be paid for lots of council officials.

Northern councilor once told me it saved £££. If the count is over sooner there is less overtime to be paid for lots of council officials.

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But they just pay more people to get it done faster - not sure how that's a cost-saving (other than the literally pounds that must be saved by a few dickheads running rather than walking with vote boxes). They do get a lot of students involved which is undoubtedly cheaper than overtime for council officials (which is presumably quadruple-time under some collective agreement or another), but they could do that anyway.

Sunderland/Newcastle ones are around 12 aren't they? Most not until 2am.

Also this election will be weird as I suspect in places like Sunderland the swing to the Tories will be much higher than elsewhere and there will be some very odd results.

That is great news, OH - is it likely to be right?? 

She has just caveated it by saying that Tories tend to vote in the evening so she expects a swing back to slight Tory majority over the next few hours.

If you know a Tory who has not voted, take them to the pub and keep them there until last orders.

I've got a Tory colleague who lives in a marginal northern seat (he normally works in London 2-3 days a week).  He was going home to vote last night, but we made him come to a meeting in London at 9am this morning, meaning he couldn't get home. Shame.