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Suede

They were actually the best Brit pop band of all weren't they.

The original and the best and Blur and Oasis would have been nothing without them.

 

I was obsessed with Suede as a teen in the 90s, right through to Coming Up. Like most though, I was disappointed by Head Music and gave up with them after. I have enjoyed listening to their stuff since they reunited, especially bloodsports, but less the last two. I'm not a teenage anymore and there is only so much angst I can take. 

Suade were for southerners or empty teens who couldn’t get a girlfriend/ boyfriend. 

Tbf round our way no one listened to anyone who wasn’t born or formed locally and there was a lot to choose. 

The first album was awesome and Andersen had proper rock star raw energy.  One of the best gigs I have ever been to was them in a small venue in the ar8e end of nowhere in (I think) 1993. 

They sort of disappeared up their own ar8ses too much for me as time went on though. 

They were properly awesome and anyone who thinks differently smells of egg. 

DMS is an odd album to cite as their greatest as it was widely perceived as almost the classic Difficult Second Album at the time, and as with most bands I’d still say their first album is their best - your first album is usually the best, as is your first hit single, because those are the ones that break through the crowd to get you attention, the ones that have fame in their own right absent your later-established reputation.

If I were only allowed to listen to five songs during the rest of my life, Animal Nitrate - their breakthrough, and of course therefore their best, single - would be one of them.

anderson in his day was brilliant, a proper star in a way nobody else in britpop except pooooosibly Liam Gallagher could rival

Albarn and Blur can fvck off. I never really liked them at the time and everyone in that band, except Dave the Drummer, was a aunt. Never saw their breakthrough appeal - some good singles sure, and the later stuff they did after they’d almost stopped being famous, like 13, was often decent - but the albums they put out at the height of their fame absolutely stink. Parklife is unedited dross full of fifty percent more tracks than anyone needs a d most of them poorly executed b-sides, and how the hell Oasis get stuck for Be Here Now when The Great Escape exists is beyond me. Anyway the best britpop album is His and Hers by Pulp and if you’re thinking of disagreeing don’t bother, you have been anticipated-denied in a advance chz. p.s. I’d still fook Louise Wener.

They did not take off pre-Blur. Blur's Leisure album (which included top ten  hit There's No Other Way) had already  gone gold a year before Suede was even recorded.

Bernard Butler had left before Britpop got going. He apparently hated the production of Dog Man Star so much that he said either we sack the producer or I leave. The rest of the band sided with the producer, which must be one of the worst decisions in the history of pop music, given that the guitar playing is what made Suede great.

The critics panned Dog Man Star at the time, but it’s better than the first album. The singles are better from album 1, but DMS is a much better album overall IMHO.

The first CD from Sci-Fi lullabies is actually better than any proper Suede album, but the second CD (all Richard Oakes b-sides) is f0cking dire.

Butler is probably a dickhead, judging by the prima donna way he acted, but yes his guitar playing is absolutely the core of their early sound; it took them a while to recover and they never hit the same heights again, although the Film Star era stuff is pretty damned good. I’ll give DMS another chance but I’m not promising anything guys.

Also, when Suede did a series of gigs about 10 years ago where they just played the songs off 1album at each gig, from memory the DMS gig sold out immediately, way faster than the others.

Didn’t fancy paying actual money to listen to ‘Head Music’ live.

O ginger chum some of us hung out with these people. Possibly we’re better placed to comment on what was what and what wasn’t than, well, the likes of you. HTH.

Didn't remember the critics panning Dog Man Star. NME gave it 9. Although this may well be because they were luke warm about the first album and felt daft. 

Anyway, gr7 band. And their recent stuff, particularly Night Thoughts is genuinely up there with the best of it. 

er, no, cookie, pretending to have hung out with the relevant twots in the early 90s makes you the exact oppsoite of well placed to comment objectively, HTH

I hung out with Finlay Quaye at the Good Mixer. Our pool series stands in my favour.

and kind of with amy w at the Hawley although it must be said that I was just a regular at the pub while my big m8 tried and failed to gain entry to her no doubt surprisingly blousy knicks

‘Didn't remember the critics panning Dog Man Star. NME gave it 9.‘

it was hailed as a masterpiece. Even more so now. Some people self-owning big time here. 

Might be right that NME gave DMS a 9 (dunno), but when 'Coming Up' was coming out, all the music journos hailed it as a return to form after the 'overblown mess' of DMS.

Coming Up wasn't bad, but it was the start of the decline.

That’s exactly it. It feels like it was squeezed out like a recalcitrant turd. Like the second Stone Roses studio album. Be Here Now in the other hand sounds like it was sprayed out diahretically and then run over by a coke dealer’s range rover.

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