Latest You Gov Poll on EU elections

Brexit: 34%

Labour: 16%

Lib Dem: 15%

Green: 11%

Others: 24%

To put it another way:

Brexit: 39%

Remain: 31%

Some sort of fudge: 26%

Yeah but we all want to remain now. 

people on rof said so. Lots and lots of times. 

Thats right. According to Anna, several million people signed a petition about something which means that the country actually wants to remain. I think you need to verify your stats, dux

I’m not sure the majority of the country does. We shall see when we do this confirmatory vote but I suspect leave may very well have gone up.  Morons.  But hey ho, won’t have any effect on me to speak of.

Well whatever it’s called now.  The ‘these are the options now we know what Brexit actually means’ vote.

Confirmatory vote is a better way of putting it, IMO.

"The will of the people" = people who didn't vote leave are not people.

"People's Vote" = people who still want to leave are not people. (To be fair, they have the IQ of plankton)

Confirmatory vote = are you really sure you want to do this, despite all the evidence that it is a fucking terrible idea?

Kimmy, I wondered which genius would spot that. It should of course read 37% but I wasn't going to draw attention to it.

I just took it as read that 3dixonhishead got his maths wrong as per. 

It should read "at least 37%" dux, to take account of:

1) those who said they'll vote tory because they believe in TMPMs brexit

 

2) those who said they'd vote labour believing Jeremy Corbyn was honest when he said we would leave and befire hearing today's news that a vote for labour is a vite for a second referendum and

3) those leavers who have been bullied by remainers  into keeping their views to themselves, thus distorting the polls.

Heh @ "leavers who keep their views to themselves".

So. Many. Unicorns.

[anna]but look at the online petition!!!!!!![/anna}

It's kind of weird that you don't think I can tell the difference between an online petition and an election.

lots of people who voted leave and who will vote brexit party hate him, so his shittly little march is not indicative. 

HTH

 

Thing is, this can be argued back and forth as long as we want but it’s essentially pointless so please stop it.

No matter who does best as MEPs they do not get into our parliament so we are left with the absurd predicament of being back where we were in the one place that matters.

I think there should be a confirmatory vote with either (deal as it stands) (WTO) (Remain) as options.  Labour seem to be pushing for that half heartedly, even some conservatives want that and change, the greens, plaid, the snp and the Lib Dem’s all want that. 

If you hate Farage and vote for the Brexit party you are a fucking moron.

But that's nothing new.

does that go for people who reject Corbyn's anti-Semitism but still vote labour, lady P?

Probably not in the same way, given that Labour is a fairly broad church with lots of beliefs and policies which have nothing to do with anti-semitism, whereas the Brexit party is basically just the Nigel Farage party.

But since I hate Corbyn and have never voted Labour, I don't have a lot of skin in this game.

(Farage not Corbyn, who has sold out to the globalists)

If you vote for the Brexit party you are a fucking moron.

fixed your 14.20 post for you Lady P

ON that note 

 

If you vote for the TIG party you are a fucking moron.

Why is that? (I will probably not vote for them, but interested in your logic.)

what do we think the actual share for brexit party will be? don't ukip usually poll this and get about 20% in the end?

Allowing for "shy" Brexiteers, I'd say about 37-40% is realistic.

I wish Brexiters would be a lot more fucking shy then they are. None of them seem to be able to shut up about how "we voted leave so why haven't we left yet".

I think the Brexit party will do well.

a surprising number of otherwise sensible and intelligent tories that I know WHO VOTED REMAIN are voting for farage to give the tories a kicking for their handling of Brexit.

 

WTAF

 

 

I think the logic goes, they're pissed off with government handling of stuff, want to kick it, but can't bring themselves to vote for any of the socialist parties/their fellow travellers.

Why is that?

 

Because they are bunch of utter cunts (e.g. chukka is total cock) who have formed a crappy little club which will diver votes from parties that might do what they claim to want. 

 

HTH

a surprising number of otherwise sensible and intelligent tories that I know WHO VOTED REMAIN are voting for farage to give the tories a kicking for their handling of Brexit.

This is completely incompatible with being intelligent, tbh.

Because they are bunch of utter cunts (e.g. chukka is total cock) who have formed a crappy little club which will diver votes from parties that might do what they claim to want. 

If you lined up all MPs in order of who is the cuntiest cunt, Chukka wouldn't even make it into the top 70%.

But I will probably vote Lib Dem because Vince Cable pointed out that if the remain parties actually want to get anywhere in these elections then they need to work together rather than splitting the vote, and the TIGgers ignored him, which is irritating. He is right.

Also, their branding is spectacularly shit. "Change UK", ffs.

The branding of ‘Change UK’ is especially dire when their primary tenet of faith is err... not to change our relationship with Europe.

Could have thought that one through a bit better even tho I understand what they were getting at, it’s clumsy.

"Not all change is good" would have been a better tagline tbh.