Honestly? Given how open she is all the time about everything, I can't help but feel that she's just attention seeking. Luckily most of the time I can avoid her because I have nixed my social media.
OK, I get that reaction (and I think it's my initial one too).
But on the actual point, if someone is only attracted to men how can they justifiably call themselves "queer" in the LGBTQI+ nomenclature? Does it mean something much broader than sexual orientation?
We don't know who she's attracted to (and being married to someone of the opposite sex doesn't automatically mean someone is heterosexual, but they could be bisexual or pansexual). I think the term "queer" is an easy blanket term for "not straight" so who knows. Just convenient that this all comes out (so to speak!) now when she's defending her position for getting a job which people think should have gone to someone else.
The ironic thing is no one cares if she's queer, the job (from what I have read) is to do with ballroom dancing and she has no experience in that and people want someone with experience in that area.
Don’t see why it matters who she’s attracted to whatever show she’s presenting, but don’t like celebrities having to out themselves publicly like this.
This does feel like one of those world's gone mad/I'm so old things. I feel a right gammon.
I've had to look up (to be sure of what/who they are or modern meaning): Jameela Jamil, unscripted TV programme, voguing and queer. And she's married to a man.
Yes feelingchill. I didn't get how you could be a "judge" on something that's seemingly predetermined albeit unscripted and why this would cause an outcry as it's basically acting (and you don't need to be LGBT to act being a judge).
This whole thread was on the basis that she IS NOT attracted to women. I mean, she might be but there is no evidence of that.
My question is - in the opinion can you call yourself "queer" if you are a woman who is only sexually attracted to men? Is "queer" broader than that, or in these circumstances only a correct label if she is bisexual?
The last thing I remember she was a not very good TV presenter on a naff show on T4 that was cancelled. Now she’s everywhere and her opinion is sought and makes headlines.
I think it’s something to do with her:
1. Being a woman.
2. Not being white.
3. Being Asian.
And having a good agent and PR team that can leverage the three as it’s the perfect combo at the moment. She can draw upon all three and exaggerate or “reveal” whenever necessary.
‘The last thing I remember she was a not very good TV presenter on a naff show on T4 that was cancelled. Now she’s everywhere and her opinion is sought and makes headlines’
She was in The Good Place which was a massive worldwide hit.
Yup for some reason totally missed it for three years and was wondering why she was suddenly in the press. Had no idea she’d moved to LA and become an actress and assumed she was in the twilight zone where most youth TV presenters end up once they turn 30.
I've been on Queer Twitter to answer this question, so buckle up.
"Queer" is an inclusive term to describe not being heterosexual. Not being heterosexual is a spectrum, so in this case "Queer" means homosexual (which I assume Jameel is not), bisexual (which she may be) BUT ALSO finding people in one or more sections of the gender spectrum (there are hundreds of them) sexually attractive.
To give you an example, as a "Queer", Jameel could be attracted to men (which she seems to be) and transwomen, but not CIS women.
It is not necessary, therefore, to be "Queer" for Jameel to be attracted to men and women, because women denotes female and is a sex, rather than a gender.
I think what bothers me about her is that she's constantly putting herself in a position of underdog/victim. "oh look I am female, I am not white, I am queer, I have a disability, I have this issue, I have that issue...". It just feels so disingenuous.
So in theory if I think a human being who I view as a man (because he is physically an adult human male) but who identified himself as non binary - that also makes ME queer?
what a load of actual shite
meanwhile have you seen Richard Burgon's latest plans to share intelligence briefings with Labour Party members?
The cynic in me wonders if she's just decided she's queer to secure this job. She claims she really came out ages ago because she added a rainbow to her name on Twitter although I thought that just meant you are a supporter of LGBTQ rights.
So in theory if I think a human being who I view as a man (because he is physically an adult human male) but who identified himself as non binary - that also makes ME queer?
Yes. I'm going to ask Mrs Stamp to identify as a "two-spirit" so that I can say I'm queer:
So in theory if I think a human being who I view as a man (because he is physically an adult human male) but who identified himself as non binary - that also makes ME queer?
It doesn't have to be a specific person does it?
I mean if you just accept that you might find someone hot who is Questioning - then you're Queer.
Is there even a need for reciprocation / the potential for a relationship? Presumably all blokes who've ever perved over a lesbian are now Queer?
Its all getting a bit ridiculous for the people who actually have discrimination problems these days isn't it?
I think what bothers me about her is that she's constantly putting herself in a position of underdog/victim. "oh look I am female, I am not white, I am queer, I have a disability, I have this issue, I have that issue...". It just feels so disingenuous.
This feels a bit unfair. She's hot and fairly successful in her career.
But, partly assuming wikipedia is correct:
1. She's almost certainly had her share of racial and sexual discrimination;
2. She has fairly severe hearing loss even after multiple operations as a child;
3. Has / had labyrinthitis which is potentially a bit of a fooker;
4. Ehlers-Danlos - I don't know if there is any indication how severe but that potentially means she's spent her life in chronic pain and puts her at increased risk if she ever wants to have children;
5. History of anorexia;
6. Severe accident as a teenager that nearly left her unable to walk;
7. Breast cancer 'scare'; and
8. Suicide attempt at 27.
Maybe some of that is played up for attention but I'm not sure it screams "easy life" and if it was an uggo mate working in an office who could list that lot off for you I reckon they'd be viewed as a bit unlucky.
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It means she is an attentionosexual
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Honestly? Given how open she is all the time about everything, I can't help but feel that she's just attention seeking. Luckily most of the time I can avoid her because I have nixed my social media.
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OK, I get that reaction (and I think it's my initial one too).
But on the actual point, if someone is only attracted to men how can they justifiably call themselves "queer" in the LGBTQI+ nomenclature? Does it mean something much broader than sexual orientation?
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We don't know who she's attracted to (and being married to someone of the opposite sex doesn't automatically mean someone is heterosexual, but they could be bisexual or pansexual). I think the term "queer" is an easy blanket term for "not straight" so who knows. Just convenient that this all comes out (so to speak!) now when she's defending her position for getting a job which people think should have gone to someone else.
The ironic thing is no one cares if she's queer, the job (from what I have read) is to do with ballroom dancing and she has no experience in that and people want someone with experience in that area.
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It means her boyfriend sometimes wears nail varnish
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It's not ballroom dancing it's vogueing appaz
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Well whatever it is, the lack of experience and knowledge was the issue but because it developed in the gay community she is staking a claim.
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heh - it ain't going to be strictly...
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I have literally no idea who this is or why I should have an opinion
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I think she's confused "queer" with "weird".
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Grants immediate immunity from criticism, genius mine tbh
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"I have to keep up with this stuff for my job"
are you a celebrity gossip columnist?
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Just as a point of order, she’s not married.
Don’t see why it matters who she’s attracted to whatever show she’s presenting, but don’t like celebrities having to out themselves publicly like this.
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Is she worried about cultural appropriation?
Has she properly and diligently unpacked her backpack of privilege?
Is it just the fact that she is an imbecile?
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TBF I dont think being an imbecile is a bar to telly hostery
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... who?
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fantastic PR for a show which features an "unscripted voguing contest" given that Jamil is about as popular as Piers Morgan
it sounds as shit as The Masked Singer though tbf and that is ace
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This does feel like one of those world's gone mad/I'm so old things. I feel a right gammon.
I've had to look up (to be sure of what/who they are or modern meaning): Jameela Jamil, unscripted TV programme, voguing and queer. And she's married to a man.
Like, srsly
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You had to look up unscripted TV programme?
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Isn’t that the transperson ?
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Yes feelingchill. I didn't get how you could be a "judge" on something that's seemingly predetermined albeit unscripted and why this would cause an outcry as it's basically acting (and you don't need to be LGBT to act being a judge).
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I think it's magina.
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"I have to keep up with this stuff for my job"
are you a celebrity gossip columnist?
I'm an employment lawyer.
This whole thread was on the basis that she IS NOT attracted to women. I mean, she might be but there is no evidence of that.
My question is - in the opinion can you call yourself "queer" if you are a woman who is only sexually attracted to men? Is "queer" broader than that, or in these circumstances only a correct label if she is bisexual?
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I think "queer" could be anything from "I reject traditional gender norms" to "I am a polyamorous bisexual"
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I reckon I’m queer.
In that I shag anything and everything. Animal, vegetable or mineral. Do anything, to anything. - The baby eating bishop of Bath and Wells.
”Never, in all my years, have I encountered such cruel and foul-minded perversity! Have you ever considered a career in the church?”
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I'm so queer I shagged my own wife
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Why would you assume she’s not attracted to women? She literally just came out.
anyway what chimp said, queer is just an umbrella term meaning not straight cis afaik
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The last thing I remember she was a not very good TV presenter on a naff show on T4 that was cancelled. Now she’s everywhere and her opinion is sought and makes headlines.
I think it’s something to do with her:
1. Being a woman.
2. Not being white.
3. Being Asian.
And having a good agent and PR team that can leverage the three as it’s the perfect combo at the moment. She can draw upon all three and exaggerate or “reveal” whenever necessary.
She’s a triple threat.
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Maybe she is a gay man trapped inside a woman's body.
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‘The last thing I remember she was a not very good TV presenter on a naff show on T4 that was cancelled. Now she’s everywhere and her opinion is sought and makes headlines’
She was in The Good Place which was a massive worldwide hit.
hth
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Yeah good one goose
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Massive worldwide hit if you watch certain streaming services. I hadn't heard of it until a couple of months ago.
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‘ I hadn't heard of it until a couple of months ago’
christ
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Yup for some reason totally missed it for three years and was wondering why she was suddenly in the press. Had no idea she’d moved to LA and become an actress and assumed she was in the twilight zone where most youth TV presenters end up once they turn 30.
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I’m not sure that has any bearing on how big a hit it was
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No but explains how plenty of people still don’t know who she is.
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Literally never heard of the good place or her. This is not really news is it?
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Never heard of good place
only heard of her from on here
i googled her last time she is from Hampstead and has had every conceivable advantage in life, not least being attractive
tede
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I've been on Queer Twitter to answer this question, so buckle up.
"Queer" is an inclusive term to describe not being heterosexual. Not being heterosexual is a spectrum, so in this case "Queer" means homosexual (which I assume Jameel is not), bisexual (which she may be) BUT ALSO finding people in one or more sections of the gender spectrum (there are hundreds of them) sexually attractive.
To give you an example, as a "Queer", Jameel could be attracted to men (which she seems to be) and transwomen, but not CIS women.
It is not necessary, therefore, to be "Queer" for Jameel to be attracted to men and women, because women denotes female and is a sex, rather than a gender.
Everyone crystal clear? Good.
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It’s exhausting
as long as it is legal and consenting just shag who you want without the need for a label or an identity
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I think in the left now your identity category defines what you are allowed to do and say
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had been toying with centre right for a while now anyway tbh
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I think what bothers me about her is that she's constantly putting herself in a position of underdog/victim. "oh look I am female, I am not white, I am queer, I have a disability, I have this issue, I have that issue...". It just feels so disingenuous.
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So in theory if I think a human being who I view as a man (because he is physically an adult human male) but who identified himself as non binary - that also makes ME queer?
what a load of actual shite
meanwhile have you seen Richard Burgon's latest plans to share intelligence briefings with Labour Party members?
I welcome the forthcoming apocalypse
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Ahahahahauuurh
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The cynic in me wonders if she's just decided she's queer to secure this job. She claims she really came out ages ago because she added a rainbow to her name on Twitter although I thought that just meant you are a supporter of LGBTQ rights.
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Sails, everyone thinks that duh
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Really I've seen plenty of people lauding her for her bravery in coming out as an asian lady.
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Yeah this is quite annoying when by most people’s standards she really has it pretty good.
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So in theory if I think a human being who I view as a man (because he is physically an adult human male) but who identified himself as non binary - that also makes ME queer?
Yes. I'm going to ask Mrs Stamp to identify as a "two-spirit" so that I can say I'm queer:
https://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2014/02/heres-a-list-of-58-gender-options-for-facebook-users
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So in theory if I think a human being who I view as a man (because he is physically an adult human male) but who identified himself as non binary - that also makes ME queer?
It doesn't have to be a specific person does it?
I mean if you just accept that you might find someone hot who is Questioning - then you're Queer.
Is there even a need for reciprocation / the potential for a relationship? Presumably all blokes who've ever perved over a lesbian are now Queer?
Its all getting a bit ridiculous for the people who actually have discrimination problems these days isn't it?
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"Its all getting a bit ridiculous for the people who actually have discrimination problems these days isn't it?"
indeed
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I think what bothers me about her is that she's constantly putting herself in a position of underdog/victim. "oh look I am female, I am not white, I am queer, I have a disability, I have this issue, I have that issue...". It just feels so disingenuous.
This feels a bit unfair. She's hot and fairly successful in her career.
But, partly assuming wikipedia is correct:
1. She's almost certainly had her share of racial and sexual discrimination;
2. She has fairly severe hearing loss even after multiple operations as a child;
3. Has / had labyrinthitis which is potentially a bit of a fooker;
4. Ehlers-Danlos - I don't know if there is any indication how severe but that potentially means she's spent her life in chronic pain and puts her at increased risk if she ever wants to have children;
5. History of anorexia;
6. Severe accident as a teenager that nearly left her unable to walk;
7. Breast cancer 'scare'; and
8. Suicide attempt at 27.
Maybe some of that is played up for attention but I'm not sure it screams "easy life" and if it was an uggo mate working in an office who could list that lot off for you I reckon they'd be viewed as a bit unlucky.
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Used to get her mixed up with Jamelia.
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Most of the comments here are toxic.
Anyway, i had never heard of this celeb until RoF ran this discussion.
'Queer' is an umbrella term for s.o. on the LGBT spectrum.
Sounds like she is either Bisexual (another umbrella term), polysexual or pansexiual.
Finally, so what? Live with it.
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