Greenwood to leave man utd

Mistakes have been made

Got there in the end 

Right decision, poor process 

Let his be a lesson to cucked fans of oil clubs 'oh oh but davos our owners behaviour isn't anything to do with us' - cuck off, you cucks - get out there and make a difference. Power to the fans 

Such a terrible process. Months of "deliberations" and preparations for him to come back all chucked out by a week's worth of social media. Right decision. Could have been made months if not years ago.

Nigerian twitter is about to explode

Doesn’t say he’s been sacked does it?  I reckon he’ll continue to get paid during his contract to end June 2024 while he looks for a club who are happy to have a rapist as long as he’ll get them goals.  Mid to top of the Championship I reckon. 

Yeah I have just actually read the statement (and the one from Greenwood) FFS

Also it does appear that he is going to stay on until they find someone to send him to (i.e. they're not just terminating his contract)

He has been at the club since he was 7 and he is back together with and having a child with the person he assaulted. He is the club's responsibility, including his off field behaviour. Just binning him off would be punishing her as much as him. 

If they were going to terminate his contract the would have done it when this all kicked off and he was arrested, dropped by sponsors and ghosted by all his team mates. They probably should have terminated his contract then, but they didn't so doing it now would be bizarre.

I am no fan of the management of Man Utd and the handling of this has been awful, but I don't see not sacking him now as a mistake. Help him find a new club and move on. 

Just binning him off would be punishing her as much as him. 
 

Yes, paying him several millions to terminate the contract as well as the millions paid for not doing anything would be terrible for her.

As I said, I’d have sacked him immediately at the time the video emerged for gross misconduct.  
 

However they didn’t do so.  Suggesting somehow terminating his contract with notice and full payment will somehow harm the woman he attempted to rape is laughable.  If they’d sacked him with immediate effect in the first place maybe she’d have had less motivation to return to the wife beating rapey khvnt.

And the whole idea that United had anything at heart other than maintaining the value of an asset and not having to get humiliated in the transfer market again replacing them is laughable.

As I said, I’d have sacked him immediately at the time the video emerged for gross misconduct.  

That's also what I said they should have done. Sue, you're shouting at tea.

If I was a fan of Newcastle, citeh, PSG etc (and I thank the lord, George best, every day that I am notFAOD) I would be using this as an example of fan power 

Next home game I am protesting, I am organising sit ins and walk outs and boycotts and all manner of things 

I'm not just sitting there like a cuck 

Guess united means more 

We stand alone. Again.

They hadn't got back together and didn't have a new baby back then luv. I'm good but I'm not mystic meg. You keep swinging and missing in slow motion though. 

We basically hold the same exact position on this. Should have binned him straight away, management have botched it at almost every turn and now shamed into the right thing (by the fans). You are so desperate for a scrap, but you're shit at it.

I think the point was that if they'd separated her financial position would (in theory) be unaffected by the sacking.

if they're a family unit that's obviously not the case.

just an explanation, I don't think it should have been factored into any decision by United 

As an obvious aside, the way in which people are attracted to filthy lucre and will excuse literally any aspect of human behaviour in order to get or keep it is the best argument for Hell. 

they would have no basis whatsoever to terminate his contract, as things stand

he will go on loan overseas where he will be less toxic and where the local fans are all massive fascist misogynists anyway. So, Juventus yeah

I’m absolutely loving the new moniker I’ve got being based on getting slushies for my family and someone else’s while on holiday.  What a right cvnt eh?  Lolz

As someone said above, Wagner is excellent on this. And kudos to the athletic too.

The weasel words in Manure and Greenwood’s statements are shameful. ‘Cleared of all charges’.

They can’t even get doing the right thing right. 

He hasn’t been convicted of anything so I do not find it problematic that he is continuing his football career and would not find it so if he continued at Manchester United.

What? That the accusation of them alone is not sufficient to cost a man his career? I do not think that is why women do not report sexual offences, no.

Chinorder - a man who chooses to support a club entirely funded by human rights abuses and has never once critised them - talks more hot cock about the real club he is a obsessed with

Hated. Adored. Never ignored. 

"would not find it so if he continued at Manchester United."

Laz you support Saudis lad so your opinion is invalid 

United fans (real working class lads who support human rights) have made it impossible for him to return 

Let that be a lesson for you oil club 'fans'

“What? That the accusation of them alone is not sufficient to cost a man his career?”

You must have missed the recordings. Not just an accusation alone but damning corroborative evidence.

The recording, with the photos, are as damning as you could imagine. I am very curious about the exculpatory evidence Murtough claims to have seen that led him to claim Greenwood is innocent. Hard to imagine what it might be and why, if it exists, they haven't produced it in the attempt to rehabilitate him.

It's bollocks isn't it?

It may be bollox  RR. but if it isn’t bollox, there would still likely be zero value in putting it in the public domain. People aren’t likely to change their views.

Laz - many, many people (rightly) lose their jobs when not convicted in court. Just because it has not been proven beyond reasonable doubt in a court of law doesn’t mean they are suitable to be employed. He clearly falls into this category.

The man is scum and I would be overjoyed if he never worked or played football again. 

He wouldn't be denied a livelihood for life. It's just a question of whether tens of thousands of people will pay for the privilege of watching him kick a ball about. That's a livelihood not many have. If people don't fancy it in his case because of what he's done, and he has to flip burgers or blozz docs for much less cash as a result, I don't see a problem with free market economics being allowed to take its course.

Anyway clearly the cow torturers are happy to turn a blind eye.

Laz - yes really. These are the sort of men that mean women are scared of all of us. Did you listen to the tape? I’d be very happy for him to live in poverty for the rest of his days.

Well, if the market is your only test then greenwood is going to be earning millions a year for the next fifteen years because many large clubs, especially overseas, will be willing to employ him.  Let’s be clear thag the reason United are keen to move him on is not directly pecuniary; there would be no clear measurable financial downside for them in keeping him.

Also, let’s not forget that United have said, for whatever reason, that they don’t believe he did what he was charged with. If that’s true then it’s hard to see what grounds they would have for firing him (which is why they aren’t actually firing him).

Wtf. Of course it's pecuniary. They were going to try to weasel him back in slowly and then realised the utter shitshow it would lead to - fan protests, sit ins, boycotts etc - and how much money it would cost them.

If he gets someone to employ him then fine - Getafe won't be paying anything like the market rate they would have paid for him before this happened. But don't lets pretend he has some human right to highly remunerative work if people don't want to see him.

nope that was in your head

Inam not in favour of lobbying to exclude him from the game, but nobody is obliged to pay him and I haven’t said they should be

The man is scum and I would be overjoyed if he never worked or played football again. 

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really? even assuming he’d been tried and convicted, you think the penalty should be to be denied a livelihood for life?