I think Universal Basic Income is a fooking stupid policy.
or some well-meaning independent?
Don't have any. My vote for the Cannabis is Safer Than Alcohol Party last time was one of only 14 votes the candidate secured. Think he probably can't afford another deposit because he spent his Giro on weed
They will have to look at the paper and I think it’s helpful to reflect on what is losing them votes. Also the very act of voting is arrogance how dare you try to shame me for it.
I would tell youse if I did, amber. But truth is I would have voted libdem if they weren’t egregiously bad on an important topic. Women have lost jobs and been arrested for expressing views on this topic. It is important to me and brexit is a bad idea so that leaves no one
Declining to vote is fine, it's specifically declining to vote because you've read 5,000 Daily Mail articles about the unstoppable trans menace that's stupid.
I’m not the one who got up early and walked all the way to and from a polling station in order to do something that will have the total effect of making one teller think ‘well that’s a crazy person’. And that’s if they even bother reading your spoiled paper.
So let’s keep the moron tag for where it is deserved.
I don’t read the Daily Mail. I’m an old school left wing liberal who is deeply unhappy with how our values have been distorted by the woke lot and their postmodernist nonsense.
1 - 99% of ppl who get wound up into a frenzy about this shit (on all sides and on all political shit) massively need to get a life (irrespective of the wrong-ness of their viewpoint
2 - in vivo exposure therapy is powerful
in the absence of any other means, i therefore conclude that winding ppl like that up ad nauseam. obviously the target is usually chosen on the basis of their wrong-ness tho
A spoiled ballot in and of itself is not an endorsement but I think it is a fair point that with this bunch o’twots government, if you are not clearly against them then you are for them,
It definitely isn’t the same as not voting (and this is reflected in systems that compel you to vote). You didn’t forget or go to the pub, you rejected all options.
dont get me wrong I don’t think it’s a hugely meaningful act but nor is any voting it’s just to mollify the proles
Spoiling is not the same as not voting, but for the record, simply not voting is absolutely fine. Can’t be arsed to turn up to the polling station? That’s fine. Completely ok. Don’t get on at me about why my grandfather fought the Nazis - I knew him, you didn’t - he was fighting for freedom not to have to do what The Man tells you to do.
Well done. The piece of paper you wasted time on filling in will now go into a pile with the ones that claim the aliens are beaming thoughts through the radio.
May I suggest that next time you make your statement in purple crayon so THEY REALLY CANNOT IGNORE YOU!!!!!!
(Don’t forget they exclamation marks by the way - that’s how they know you are really SERIOUS!!!!!!)
anyone who has been to a count will know that it can quite draining. the odd stupidly defaced ballot paper is important for light relief.
those defacing their ballots should consider it an important public service. perhaps over many years the service could be rewarded by a place in the house of lords
Strutter who do you with your psephological GENIUS think I should have voted for? Bear in mind I don't give a fook what happens to the south of England, would like to see the city gutted and it's overpaid lawyers jettisoned into the sea, this is one of the safest SNP seats in the country, most of the day to day powers are devolved anyway, I do not want Brexit or Scottish independence or for women to lose their right to safety.
I cast my vote this morning in the royal borough of kensington and Chelsea aka the 2nd most marginal seat in the country.
Ended up holding my nose and voting libdem, although I don’t like their trans mentalism either. I’m not convinced Jo swinson actually believes what she’s saying on the topic, and quite frankly if we could manage to dispatch this horrific shower of cvnts we can have the fight on trans stuff after that.
I enjoyed the 2010 count I went to even though the party I’d campaigned for had a most undeserved bad night. Best bit was all the rightards going round going round predicting Ed Balls to lose his seat and getting ready to tug their three inch weenises to a twenty second jizzfest when his result was announced, only for him to retain his seat at which all the Labour groupings started banging the tables and chanting ED! BALLS! ED! BALLS! Juvenile and massively enjoyable.
Knowing a few of the libdem mafia up here, I am confident she does believe it. The Edinburgh ones are just. There's a guy who used to be in PIE, I think.
It is pretty simple - if you don’t want to vote for any of them then don’t vote for any of them.
Wasting your own and other people’s time by WRITING YOUR VERY IMPORTANT STATEMENT!!!!!! on the ballot simply tells people that you are not terribly stable.
Unless I have missed a number of instances where spoiling a paper as opposed to not voting made a difference to anything. If there are such cases I would be delighted to hear of them.
I am genuinely curious what happens to the spoilt ballot papers? I assume all of them go to the trash. And possibly some may give a vote counter a titter or a moment to roll his/her eyes.
Sorry, is there some special process I don’t know about where they separate the spoilt papers on which people are making a VERY SERIOUS POINT!!!!! from the ones concerning alien mind control and send the former off to a VERY SPECIAL COMMITTEE which looks at them and makes the top 10 VERY SERIOUS POINTS!!!!!! into LAWS!
strutter why are you harassing me and not the many men on this board who are talking about stupid actual votes?
there is literally no one I would vote for
what I have done ensures that my libdem candidate knows why I didn't vote for her - she will have to read it - it is a unique opportunity to convey a message
you might take the view oh LOL they will just think you are a fanny
but I don't give a shit what you think, you are a genuine idiot who should learn his place
Spoiled the crap out of mine. Didn't intend to go at all but wifey forgot to send her postal ballot so had to hand deliver...
will the spoiled ballot make any difference? absolutely not. would it have made a difference if I had voted for any particular candidate when the incumbant usually gets 70%+ of the vote? also, absolutely not.
There will never be a party that agrees with all of my views...because I haven't started the Dogwarden Party.
Therefore voting is a compromise of who you want to lose and who you can stomach on a macro level.
I want Boris to lose because he represents an absolute certainty of a disaster, so I'm voting for a weak labour candidate. I don't approve of Corbyn but the risk of him and the hope of a hung parliament is better than the certainty of a lying, dishonesty, criminal Boris who will slaughter our NHS and weaken our country for his own and friends personal and financial interests.
This isn’t a dig at Rhamnousia specifically, and applies to everyone, including frankly me, but: an election like this is about the really really macro issues: disposing of an utterly dreadful, incompetent and corrupt government and derailing / frustrating Brexit. Subject to those issues, please realise: NOBODY GIVES A TOSS WHAT YOU ACTUALLY THINK; INTELLECTUALLY AND POLITICALLY YOU ARE PLANKTON; EVERYONE’S GOT AN OPINION AND, LIKE EVERYONE ELSE’S, YOURS DOES NOT MATTER A JOT. Shut up and vote antiTory.
For someone who purports not to care what I think you spend an awful lot of time insulting me and making stuff up about me (as opposed to answering my points).
Not sure any Remain Tory who signed up as a Labour member to vote in Jezza as party leader should be that quick to call people an idiot for their voting activities.
Strutter who do you with your psephological GENIUS think I should have voted for? Bear in mind I don't give a fook what happens to the south of England, would like to see the city gutted and it's overpaid lawyers jettisoned into the sea, this is one of the safest SNP seats in the country, most of the day to day powers are devolved anyway, I do not want Brexit or Scottish independence or for women to lose their right to safety.
Who would you vote for ya charlatan of a man.
I'd suggest you vote for whomever will achieve your goals. You have no hope if you don't vote. Not sure I agree with your goals though... they seem a little, dare I say it, negative..
strutter - I ignore you completely except when you pop up on my threads to be a aunt. Then I call you a aunt because you are one. I am under no obligation to ignore your nasty behaviour.
Will be fun looking back on people willing to vote for a massive anti-semite and getting a Tozza majority anyway.
Sadly, I expect it... but at least I won't have helped it.
Yes, the choice between an anti-semite ideological idiot and a criminal is a poor one. I don't want however to have a government where the fact that the man is so morally flawed as to be unfit to govern... didn't matter to the electorate. that is where America is. I think he will destroy the NHS in a heartbeat and penalise poverty so his already rich friends can suck the remaining blood out of this nation.
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Yep. Drew a massive cock and balls with spunk coming out and wrote "They are all fooking w**kers" on the bottom. Postal vote.
What a time to be alive.
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Can’t you vote Green
I think Universal Basic Income is a fooking stupid policy.
or some well-meaning independent?
Don't have any. My vote for the Cannabis is Safer Than Alcohol Party last time was one of only 14 votes the candidate secured. Think he probably can't afford another deposit because he spent his Giro on weed
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No, this is the most meaningful my vote at a GE has ever been.
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Why do you think UBI is a stupid policy? NB do not respond aggressively, this is a perfectly polite question.
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The Green Party stance on single sex spaces and the equality act is not something I can support.
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Our independent candidate seems bonkers
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I wrote “it would have been libdem but you went mental on the trans thing”.
The effect was somewhat undermined (or enhanced depending on your perspective) by having to write in pencil.
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bet they’re gutted Rhammers
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I was intending to vote LD in my safe tory constituency but will vote Green instead. <sigh>.
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Yeah that’ll teach them.
Idiot.
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They will have to look at the paper and I think it’s helpful to reflect on what is losing them votes. Also the very act of voting is arrogance how dare you try to shame me for it.
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I’m doing this:
candidate C
candidate U
candidate N
candidate T
candidate S
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I dare very easily.
Idiot.
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Strutted, you are a genuine clinical moron so let’s wind that neck in.
Remember I don’t live in the shitty benighted south. The snp will win here and you will soon be left to your embarrassing Anglo devices.
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I wonder how many will be moaning about no deal brexit again...after this
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The fact that you can’t understand how democracy works is a shame given that you are allowed to vote.
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Clergs don’t lie you voted Tory.
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No attempt to shame you on my part. I think declining to vote is an important democratic right.
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I would tell youse if I did, amber. But truth is I would have voted libdem if they weren’t egregiously bad on an important topic. Women have lost jobs and been arrested for expressing views on this topic. It is important to me and brexit is a bad idea so that leaves no one
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Well there is snp who I want to do well but I don’t want actual Scottish independence
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Me as well. Would’ve been Lib Dem (best of a bad bunch) but for their trans mentalism.
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Declining to vote is fine, it's specifically declining to vote because you've read 5,000 Daily Mail articles about the unstoppable trans menace that's stupid.
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Pancakes
a tax specialist is currently in tribunal for losing her job after saying she didn’t believe men can become women
women have been raped in prison because of this
women have been punched in the face by trans activists.
you can really fook off with your belittling
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I’m not the one who got up early and walked all the way to and from a polling station in order to do something that will have the total effect of making one teller think ‘well that’s a crazy person’. And that’s if they even bother reading your spoiled paper.
So let’s keep the moron tag for where it is deserved.
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Didn’t vote for the current administration either Barry so nice try at a pwn you copied from twitter but fail
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srs q
is it “a pwn” or “an pwn”?
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Is 830 early to you? I was bought a coffee by my lovely ever hopeful snp pal.
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Several people have to examine every spoiled paper. Which you would know if you weren’t a moron.
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A pwn
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I don’t read the Daily Mail. I’m an old school left wing liberal who is deeply unhappy with how our values have been distorted by the woke lot and their postmodernist nonsense.
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i always read “pwn” with a silent “p” so not sure that makes sense
it’s like saying it’s a honour. it hurts my inner ear.
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The daily mail also believes in gender roles ofc
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The daily mail also believes in gender roles ofc
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i subscribe to two views:
1 - 99% of ppl who get wound up into a frenzy about this shit (on all sides and on all political shit) massively need to get a life (irrespective of the wrong-ness of their viewpoint
2 - in vivo exposure therapy is powerful
in the absence of any other means, i therefore conclude that winding ppl like that up ad nauseam. obviously the target is usually chosen on the basis of their wrong-ness tho
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A spoiled ballot is not an endorsement you total buffoon
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It’s said like pawn
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A spoiled ballot in and of itself is not an endorsement but I think it is a fair point that with this bunch o’twots government, if you are not clearly against them then you are for them,
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"not voting against the current govt in my view is the same as endorsement."
that's your opinion. But opinions are like arseholes so ??♀️
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it kind of is tbf cos an abstention is effectively an absence of vote against the status quo
i appreci7 psychologically it’s not, but practically is
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My government is the snp one
I don’t think English people realize how dysfunctional their world is
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I had planned not to vote but I got the offfered the coffee and just needed to pretend to be enthusiastic about snp stuff so
go yellows
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"No self-respecting woman should wish or work for the success of a party who ignores her sex."
so I'm not.
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Oh good. Another thread on this.
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Exactly
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It's not a thread on this. I asked if anyone was not voting. I didn't start the current subject line
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@hoolie obv
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Yeah imagine having political concerns that are nothing to do with men how boring let’s wang on about football instead
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It definitely isn’t the same as not voting (and this is reflected in systems that compel you to vote). You didn’t forget or go to the pub, you rejected all options.
dont get me wrong I don’t think it’s a hugely meaningful act but nor is any voting it’s just to mollify the proles
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Your government is the Westminster one as everyone else’s is. Westminster owns Scotland and can take away its “powers” like*snaps fingers* that.
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Spoiling is not the same as not voting, but for the record, simply not voting is absolutely fine. Can’t be arsed to turn up to the polling station? That’s fine. Completely ok. Don’t get on at me about why my grandfather fought the Nazis - I knew him, you didn’t - he was fighting for freedom not to have to do what The Man tells you to do.
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Well done. The piece of paper you wasted time on filling in will now go into a pile with the ones that claim the aliens are beaming thoughts through the radio.
May I suggest that next time you make your statement in purple crayon so THEY REALLY CANNOT IGNORE YOU!!!!!!
(Don’t forget they exclamation marks by the way - that’s how they know you are really SERIOUS!!!!!!)
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Did you take your statins today strutter?
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anyone who has been to a count will know that it can quite draining. the odd stupidly defaced ballot paper is important for light relief.
those defacing their ballots should consider it an important public service. perhaps over many years the service could be rewarded by a place in the house of lords
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Strutter who do you with your psephological GENIUS think I should have voted for? Bear in mind I don't give a fook what happens to the south of England, would like to see the city gutted and it's overpaid lawyers jettisoned into the sea, this is one of the safest SNP seats in the country, most of the day to day powers are devolved anyway, I do not want Brexit or Scottish independence or for women to lose their right to safety.
Who would you vote for ya charlatan of a man.
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I cast my vote this morning in the royal borough of kensington and Chelsea aka the 2nd most marginal seat in the country.
Ended up holding my nose and voting libdem, although I don’t like their trans mentalism either. I’m not convinced Jo swinson actually believes what she’s saying on the topic, and quite frankly if we could manage to dispatch this horrific shower of cvnts we can have the fight on trans stuff after that.
Yay democracy etc
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I did also think of that, diceman. I have a friend on the count and they enjoy the loonies.
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No, I am voting Lib Dem in the hope of getting rid of Raab. It will give me some consolation in the midst of the tory majority we're going to get.
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I enjoyed the 2010 count I went to even though the party I’d campaigned for had a most undeserved bad night. Best bit was all the rightards going round going round predicting Ed Balls to lose his seat and getting ready to tug their three inch weenises to a twenty second jizzfest when his result was announced, only for him to retain his seat at which all the Labour groupings started banging the tables and chanting ED! BALLS! ED! BALLS! Juvenile and massively enjoyable.
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I agree with you Toronto, I think she just says this stuff because it sounds "nice". However I live in a con/lab marginal and I can't vote labour
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I cannot BELIEVE anyone who thinks the tory government is a shower of aunts declined to vote LAB in Kensington. Cannot BELIEVE it.
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Knowing a few of the libdem mafia up here, I am confident she does believe it. The Edinburgh ones are just. There's a guy who used to be in PIE, I think.
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laz, the brexit party are standing in Kensington so emma dent coad may hold on.
anyway "only the libdems can beat labour in Kensington! It's a 2 horse race" *picture of 2 horses*
Lord rennard said so
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Oh I think LAB will enlarge their madge in Kensington, I just don’t see how the anti tory vote can go anywhere else.
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those ones aren't racing rham. you'll never make a lib dme candidate
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is that what the yougov polling showed ?
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It is pretty simple - if you don’t want to vote for any of them then don’t vote for any of them.
Wasting your own and other people’s time by WRITING YOUR VERY IMPORTANT STATEMENT!!!!!! on the ballot simply tells people that you are not terribly stable.
Unless I have missed a number of instances where spoiling a paper as opposed to not voting made a difference to anything. If there are such cases I would be delighted to hear of them.
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Toronto - are you Chelsea and Fulham or Kensington? I saw Greg Hands outside M&S on Tuesday.
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Pwn is pronounced "powned" or "poned". Owned, by a professional.
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strutter - since you clearly don't know what happens with spoiled ballots I would suggest just piping down tbh.
I could have drawn a cock on it. But unlike you my sense of humour isn't that of a juvenile ape's.
just take your hubris and shove it up your over the hill arse ok
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if you can still bend that far
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ok yes powned I can accept that
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I usually say the vowel silently so it's like peund
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I wonder if he talks to Mrs strutter like this when she gets *ideas*
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I assume that mrs strutter is humiliatingly in charge and that is why he acts out when she can't see what he's doing
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I am genuinely curious what happens to the spoilt ballot papers? I assume all of them go to the trash. And possibly some may give a vote counter a titter or a moment to roll his/her eyes.
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every candidate and the presiding officer has to look at them
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Sorry, is there some special process I don’t know about where they separate the spoilt papers on which people are making a VERY SERIOUS POINT!!!!! from the ones concerning alien mind control and send the former off to a VERY SPECIAL COMMITTEE which looks at them and makes the top 10 VERY SERIOUS POINTS!!!!!! into LAWS!
Is that a thing that happens?
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then they go in a separate bag
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strutter why are you harassing me and not the many men on this board who are talking about stupid actual votes?
there is literally no one I would vote for
what I have done ensures that my libdem candidate knows why I didn't vote for her - she will have to read it - it is a unique opportunity to convey a message
you might take the view oh LOL they will just think you are a fanny
but I don't give a shit what you think, you are a genuine idiot who should learn his place
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Spoiled the crap out of mine. Didn't intend to go at all but wifey forgot to send her postal ballot so had to hand deliver...
will the spoiled ballot make any difference? absolutely not. would it have made a difference if I had voted for any particular candidate when the incumbant usually gets 70%+ of the vote? also, absolutely not.
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I think everyone should do this if there is an issue they feel strongly about and are planning to spoil their ballot
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well that too, kasper
(although you could count the absolute votes for a pro-remain party or a pro-union party but frankly there are too many variables)
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There was that lollersome case last year where someone drew a cartoon penis in the box next to a candidate and it was counted as a vote for them.
I took no such risks on my spoilt ballot, so vast was my cartoon penis, balls and spunk.
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"strutter why are you harassing me and not the many men on this board who are talking about stupid actual votes?"
I think we know why
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Nope.
There will never be a party that agrees with all of my views...because I haven't started the Dogwarden Party.
Therefore voting is a compromise of who you want to lose and who you can stomach on a macro level.
I want Boris to lose because he represents an absolute certainty of a disaster, so I'm voting for a weak labour candidate. I don't approve of Corbyn but the risk of him and the hope of a hung parliament is better than the certainty of a lying, dishonesty, criminal Boris who will slaughter our NHS and weaken our country for his own and friends personal and financial interests.
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This isn’t a dig at Rhamnousia specifically, and applies to everyone, including frankly me, but: an election like this is about the really really macro issues: disposing of an utterly dreadful, incompetent and corrupt government and derailing / frustrating Brexit. Subject to those issues, please realise: NOBODY GIVES A TOSS WHAT YOU ACTUALLY THINK; INTELLECTUALLY AND POLITICALLY YOU ARE PLANKTON; EVERYONE’S GOT AN OPINION AND, LIKE EVERYONE ELSE’S, YOURS DOES NOT MATTER A JOT. Shut up and vote antiTory.
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For someone who purports not to care what I think you spend an awful lot of time insulting me and making stuff up about me (as opposed to answering my points).
Curious that.
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Not sure any Remain Tory who signed up as a Labour member to vote in Jezza as party leader should be that quick to call people an idiot for their voting activities.
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I wonder if you have any awareness of how you sound laz
based on last experience, I imagine none at all
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laz, most of the plankton want brexit
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Rhamnousia12 Dec 19 09:25
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Strutter who do you with your psephological GENIUS think I should have voted for? Bear in mind I don't give a fook what happens to the south of England, would like to see the city gutted and it's overpaid lawyers jettisoned into the sea, this is one of the safest SNP seats in the country, most of the day to day powers are devolved anyway, I do not want Brexit or Scottish independence or for women to lose their right to safety.
Who would you vote for ya charlatan of a man.
I'd suggest you vote for whomever will achieve your goals. You have no hope if you don't vote. Not sure I agree with your goals though... they seem a little, dare I say it, negative..
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Like everyone’s opinion on everything, how I sound does not matter.
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Also pls do not post your ranty OP from your unsuccessful thread on my successful one for attention
chz thnx etc
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Will be fun looking back on people willing to vote for a massive anti-semite and getting a Tozza majority anyway.
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strutter - I ignore you completely except when you pop up on my threads to be a aunt. Then I call you a aunt because you are one. I am under no obligation to ignore your nasty behaviour.
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lol@ the woman bitching about thoughtful Christmas presents calling anyone else negative
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quite, alan
people are pretty fecking cocky given what they are backing
"that lovely mister hitler believes in internationalism!"
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heh @ notions of thread “success”
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Will be fun looking back on people willing to vote for a massive anti-semite and getting a Tozza majority anyway.
Sadly, I expect it... but at least I won't have helped it.
Yes, the choice between an anti-semite ideological idiot and a criminal is a poor one. I don't want however to have a government where the fact that the man is so morally flawed as to be unfit to govern... didn't matter to the electorate. that is where America is. I think he will destroy the NHS in a heartbeat and penalise poverty so his already rich friends can suck the remaining blood out of this nation.
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