Supreme Court say the same I’m afraid. It’s the running theme in one of the leading authorities on why we don’t go behind jury verdicts once they’re delivered. 

So do you reckon funding cuts make the revival of trial by ordeal more or less likely? They could sell tickets.

Trials already are an ordeal. For the advocates as well as defendants. It’ll just get worse as the funding gets less. It’s 7.44 and I’m already at court working. I worked until 10 last night. I woke up worrying about my trial at 4. I’m in a courtroom with no natural light so, because of the early starts and late ends, I barely see daylight in the week. This routine will continue until it ends in a few weeks. And countless others do the same for shit pay to keep the system on the rails and to make sure miscarriages don’t happen. 

So yeah, the ordeal is happening and it’ll get worse. Not sure it’ll make good tv though. We all look like shit through lack of sleep. 

It still sounds better than the holding a red hot iron bar thing tbh

• Viewers are left outraged as Sir Cliff Richard tells Loose Women he'd rather 10 guilty people go free than one innocent person suffer after he was wrongly accused of historical sex offences

• The 78-year-old veteran singer made the controversial remark on Loose Women

 my emphasis

this never used to be a controversial remark, the idea that 10% of the prison population should be innocent people wrongly jailed kind of shows the sort of person who watches loose women

I once heard that pedophiles are using an area of the internet the size of Ireland to prey on children...

Sumo makes a good point. The audience is made up almost solely of women who, I suspect, refer to their partners as “hubby” when being affectionate and “oh him” when not. Those who also liberally use the term “hun” on social media whilst posting memes of cats and declaring their support for Farage. 

Yeah all a bit of an idiots watching idiotic day time tv show get upset about nothing non shocka really.

Yeah it's not like they can vote or anything

Or that bailey just posted that the supreme court agrees

Or that this is the take of the most influential newspaper in the country rather than actual viewers polled

Not sure if we are speaking at cross purposes here Clerghs.

My point is that Blackstone's ratio has always been controversial with the hard of thinking and the newspapers that pander to them. That is nothing new.

With the likes of TMPM in power I guess we should be fearful though. 

Well true, cc. But I do think it's risky that nobody is saying hang on remember the Maguire 7 who are literally also in this paper.

What Sumo said at 7:59 and what Bailey said at 8:16. FFS.

Hi Bailey btw. *waves*

I am interested that all three of you accepted the mail's pretence that they represented "viewers" rather than their own take. This was their top story when I saw it. The psychological impact is impressive.

In a bad way obv.

I didn't click on the Mail link tbf. It's against my ethics policy.

This is what happens when people havent watched Enemy Of The State

you're right

we should get that back on for christmas