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would any of the board’s numerous regular conservative voters care to justify why we have so many schools in danger of collapsing on the heads of children and teachers because the education estate has been so miserably poorly maintained?

I’m not talking about the alt right freaks here, I’m addressing the somewhat more normal Tory fanbois and girls of the board.

What justification do you have to offer for the rank failure of those you elected to properly maintain schools?

The provost's tower and the quadrangle are looking a little dilapidated now you come to mention it. Perhaps we can have a whip round. Benefactors will be richly rewarded. 

Possibly, but it’s been known about for years and hasn’t been addressed 

which just raises the same question - why hasn’t it?

all those people who voted for Johnson because nnnng Corbiyn! reds under the bed! It would be interesting to know what greater ill you were keen to guard against than children’s young minds being crushed by failed concrete beams

And sure, crushing children at their school desks wasn’t actually in the Conservative manifesto. But if you vote for a party whose long term record is consistently to underfund public services to a dangerous extent, you kind of know what’s coming. in outline form anyway

This is, seriously, why I find it difficult to contemplate ever voting conservative - the very literal and physical rot and decay that sets in whenever the Right are allowed to run the country.

Education authorities are rightly focussing on the immediate and present danger to our children- that Marxist teachers are forcing them to identify as gay cats. HTH.

Well, it’s notable that this problem is much less of an issue in the NHS, where Labour of course very substantially renewed the physical estate with the hated but actually very successful PFI programme.

would any of the board’s numerous regular conservative voters care to justify why we have so many schools in danger of collapsing on the heads of children and teachers because the education estate has been so miserably poorly maintained?

WHEN OH WHEN IS SIR BEER GOING TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY?!?

I WON'T HOLD MY BREATH!!

the lifespan of this aerated concrete expired on Tony Blair's watch, so let's ask him why he didn't muster any action.

GOOD POINT!

RISHI SUNAK HAS ONLY BEEN PRIME MINISTER SINCE LAST OCTOBER, HOW ON EARTH CAN HE BE EXPECTED TO HAVE DONE ANYTHING ABOUT IT?!?

IT’S NOT AS IF HE HAS HAD BEEN OVER 13 YEARS IN WHICH TO DO SOMETHING!!

it would have been impressive if Rishi had delivered change on this prior to 2015 when he became an MP. And to be honest delivering change on something like this in his first 3 years as a backbencher would have been quite staggering.

 

AND BEFORE ANYONE TRIES TO MENTION LABOUR’S BUILDING SCHOOLS FOR THE FUTURE SCHEME, IT WAS SCRAPPED BY THE TORIES AS SOON AS THEY CAME TO POWER IN 2010 FOR VERY GOOD REASONS

Hundreds of school building projects are being scrapped as England's national school redevelopment scheme is axed by the government.

Education Secretary Michael Gove said 719 school revamps already signed up to the scheme would not now go ahead.

A further 123 academy schemes are to be reviewed on a case-by-case basis.

His department has been reviewing Labour's Building Schools for the Future scheme since the election.

It concluded that all local authority schemes that have not reached financial close would not go ahead, saving "billions" of pounds.

IT SAVED MONEY!!

BECAUSE SPENDING MONEY ON IMPROVING INFRASTRUCTURE AT A TIME OF DEPRESSED PRIVATE SECTOR DEMAND AND RECORD LOW BORROWING RATES IS A BAD THING!!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10514113.amp

it would have been impressive if Rishi had delivered change on this prior to 2015 when he became an MP. And to be honest delivering change on something like this in his first 3 years as a backbencher would have been quite staggering.

A VERY GOOD POINT CLUBMAN: HOW CAN THE CONSERVATIVE PARTY BE BLAMED FOR ITS PERFORMANCE SINCE 2010 WHEN RISHI SUNAK ONLY BECAME AN MP IN 2015?!?

austerity was actual brain damage wasn't it

NO IT WASN’T!!

AND I HAVEN’T CHECKED BUT I BET IT BROUGHT THE NATIONAL DEBT RIGHT DOWN JUST LIKE IT WAS SUPPOSED TO!!

MAKING THE NAYSAYERS LOOK VERY STUPID!!

The Tories have overseen 15 years of disinvestment in schools/education, as well as blowing a significant chunk of the remaining budget on the ideological shitshow that is free schools. Do you really think the heads of schools that had plenty of free cash and are used to trawling through the never ending stream of w**kdom memos disseminated by Tory education ministers would have ignored the one that said "if you have a bit of free cash, maybe check the roof will not cave in"? 

I do however like Clubman's Brexitesque done is done approach. Reminds me of the unthinking "follow the science". 

‘austerity was actual brain damage wasn't it

half the posters on this board clapped and cheered the jolly sensible conservatives pruning the magic money tree‘

bUt tHe noTe!!! IT sAiD tHeRE waS nO mOnEY lEfT!!!

That's the thing, they were too gutless to even do it properly. If they'd come in and said we're doing austerity and as a result the services provided by the government will be slashed then at least that would make some kind of sense.

Instead they said we're going to slash spending, but also expect the public sector to deliver all the same services. And spend 13 years massively increasing bureaucracy overhead at every level. 

So now the state does not function and our infrastructure is collapsing. 

It was all way more stupidly delusional than the magic money tree. At least that acknowledges that money is required to pay for stuff. 

Heh @ “the problem with austerity was there wasn’t enough austerity!!!”

the problem with it was that it cut expenditure that really, really needed to be expended, at just the point in time when it most needed to be expended and just at a time when public sector demand and borrowing were cratering 

that was the fvcking problem with it, sun

Clearly the schools should have been sorted out, but there seems to be a wider point being made about "underinvestment."

How about the country just can't afford any more than it's spending at the moment?

Tax burden has just hit a new post war record and public sector net debt is over 100% of GDP now, I think.

If you don't agree with me, agree with Rachel Reeves, who's told her prospective frontbenchers that "they should draw up reforms or identify schemes that can be scrapped if they want to fund new projects, as the money is simply not going to be there."

you voted for the govt that did exactly those things so you did far more to ‘support it’ than I did

but it has been rising steadily since 2010 in any event

Btw you can see from the annual public sector net borrowing figures that they clearly were heading in the right direction over the hated "austerity" period, before Covid hit.

Reeves post Covid doesn't sound hugely different from Osborne post 2008. Of course, she won't use the word "austerity" but it's probably going to be the same sort of stuff, just with a cuddlier sounding word and a red rosette.

Btw you can see from the annual public sector net borrowing figures that they clearly were heading in the right direction over the hated "austerity" period, before Covid hit.

Austerity was pure cancer for the country on every metric Walter.

“Can't 100% pin this on the Tories”

Why not? They’re the ones who were in charge, and yet same time they’re the ones who preach the idiot doctrine that fiscal budgeting should work by analogy to household budgeting, being sure not to spend this month any more than you earn this month.

The entire political system is hard wired for short term ism. Especially infrastructure. Then you get the musical chairs of ministers which undermines any form of continuity. FPTP is the problem 

"Austerity was pure cancer for the country"

I'm confused, RR. Am I right in saying that you intend to vote for a party whose shadow chancellor says she will be "rigorous in holding down public spending," won't raise taxes, won't borrow to fund day to day spending, and has just dropped a plan to invest £28bn in green jobs and industry?

 

I'm confused, RR. Am I right in saying that you intend to vote for a party

Please point to where I have revealed my voting intentions Walter. Not Tory does not automatically mean lab. 

If we're assuming who people are voting for then I'm going to suggest you will be going for the fascist Tice and his Reform goosesteppers. Amirite?

I shall certainly be voting LAB next Jenny EL, and contributing to majjie t 400, despite or even because of the factors GG lists.

It is very clear that LAB has, correctly, identified that the social and fiscal conservatives need to be wooed (a reverse gulling) with this sort of placatory nonsense. Once LAB are in power (for at least the next two decades) they will have free rein to implement their liberal policies and ensure a fairer future for all, regardless of race, sex, disability, financial status or gender. 

"GG: dunno about RR, but I certainly intend to! Why? They’re not the Tories!"

Yes but you don't really seem to care, it's more fun to witness the pain and anguish of RR and Davos as they are forced to vote for Brexit and austerity.

"Noted the non denial of voting for Tice"

I can't stand Tice. Not because I've got anything against the Reform party. It was the khunty claims that "workers are selfish not to return to the office" from someone with a massive commercial property portfolio.

"You know. I know you know. You know I know you know."

Lol. At least you're not accusing me of being risky any more.

For the last time - I don't have any other logins. I honestly don't even know who "Walter" is.

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