The Scots culturally appropriated it from the Tocharians, so pas de problème.

My favourite scarf is from one of those traditional Scottish family run woollen good purveyors.

No probs, Judo. I happen to be in Edinburgh right now for a few days and of the many people that I have seen wearing tartan of some kind or other, I would guess (judging from their respective accents) that very few of them are native Scots.

Judy Carter 06 Sep 23 10:25

I happen to like tartan a lot, BUT, my question for debate is that: as a non-Scot is it unacceptable cultural appropriation for me to wear tartan?

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it is not appropriation, a key tennant of scottish culture is inclusiveness, it would be a totally alien imported concept to shame people for wearing tartan

see also english or american guys panicing about can they wear a kilt to a wedding 

But if that is not the definition of cultural appropriation then what is?

And is cultural appropriation inherently bad, and if not what the circumstances that make it so?

An ex boyfriend of mine was Norn Irish.  I really like northern irish kilts.

https://greatscotscotland.com/collections/ukraine-forever-tartan

On behalf of my fellows I say have at it.  And tweed.

Only truly grates when fat Americans turn up swathed in tartan or wearing evening dress  pronouncing that they are Scotch and really from Scot-Land.

Judy Carter06 Sep 23 10:33

But if that is not the definition of cultural appropriation then what is?

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you're focusing on the cultural instead of the appropriation

it's appropriation to use something freely given and encouraged as a sort of cultural marketing tool

ffs

"it's not appropriation to use something freely given"

kerist how did I ever end up in this job

Dunno but you've shown how you might end up exiting it.

Heh!!

Our culture is nt yr costume!!!!

Wearing a kilt to a wedding is usually a good marker that the wearer is a prize tw@t

If the person isn’t even Scottish then they are definitely a fvcking tw@t

What if I use it as a picnic blanket, is that ok, or only if there are scotch eggs involved?

Exactly Clerghers, although I have been hankering after a tam o'shanter from the House of Bruar, so that I can feel like a heroine in a John Buchan novel.

Tbh there's this whole thing about lowlanders not really being tartan people either. Hate the whole chocolate box thing. Am sure you'd be welcome renovation to the look jc.

Christ, half my gmail inbox is guff from House of Bruar.  I bought the dog walking hat from there and now they won't leave me alone.

FAOD the hat doesn't walk the dog, I just wear it while walking the dog.

Isn't this lovely:

Isle of Skye Tartan Brushed Wool Tam | Lochcarron of Scotland

Can we resolve this in the direction of it being ok? I have a Brera cashmere tartan scarf that is so wonderful it makes me positively want there to be bad weather.  I would like to be reassured it is ok with Rof if I continue to wear it. 

God no, where would you wear that?

when it's cold!

Needs a ginger wig underneath to really set it off.

Buzz.06 Sep 23 11:05

Christ, half my gmail inbox is guff from House of Bruar.  I bought the dog walking hat from there and now they won't leave me alone.

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jeebus 

I try to explain to people how the most english thing you can do is have special clothes every minutely different activity that occurs during your day

but a specific hat for walking the dog is next level 

mr ronald coase06 Sep 23 11:11

Can we resolve this in the direction of it being ok? 

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I'm honestly starting to think we need a rof cultural appropriation committee to rule on these on a case by case basis

we're about 5 posts from a russian albino etonian rocking up and declaring he wants rasta dreads

There is a reason for it tbf

Can't put hood up when pissing down as need eyes in the back of my head when walking buzzdog to be aware of hostiles. Listen to loads of podcasts when walking dog. Don't want earphones getting soaked and fooked when it's pissing down. Hence DWH

https://www.houseofbruar.com/wax-traveller-hat-brown/

Tartan wallpaper is awesome 

I have specific dog walking trousers.

My boss is an Old Etonian.  He wears a rather dramatic Afghan patu, which he got in the '70s.

And Trombo has drinking trousers IIRC.

You must have pulling pants, Buzz.

They were retired long ago...

Without wishing to out myself, I belong to one of the few Irish clans with its own tartan. 

Wearing someone else's is a bit naff. The sort of thing American tourists would do. 

You could always wear a universal tartan. Personally, I think Royal Stewart is quite attractive. 

Well it's ok for the Germans* to do it so fill your boots.

*i.e. the royal family 

The tam o'shanter to which I linked (and which I am thinking of buying now) is the tartan of The Isle of Skye appaz and not a clan specific tartan.

That's perfectly acceptable. 

Irish tartans tend to be geographic rather than familial. 

"I really like northern irish kilts."

There's no such thing as a "northern" Irish kilt. But yes, I agree the Irish kilt is superior. More of a dress than a skirt.