Online dating with Stix

I just met a guy for a drink.  It was going ok, he was nice enough but I didn't fancy him.  He asked whether I fancied him and I said I was enjoying his company but didn't see him as more than a friend.

He then sat there and had a conversation with me for 10 minutes about how this always happens to him, whilst crying.  Tears down face.  It's you.  No, it's not you, it's me. I never said you were to blame.... AAAGGHH

But apparently I am "mesmerising" and "stunning" so that's all ok. And I'm totally up for having one of these things around all the time.

Oh men...

...meh, the labrador of the human species. Doleful, like rolling in (metaphorical) shit, eat every meal like it was their last and their fu*kin' hair gets everywhere.

Tbf I feel quite sorry for you at the moment stixta.

Dr Proudman got called stunning and she built an entire career out of it.  You can’t even get a cheeky tun!

#pray4stick

Several of them do ask but tend to try and do it in a roundabout way. And then don't cry.

I think I've had two cryers. The one that started talking about his *first* suicide attempt (sure, we all have our demons, but on a first date??) was particularly special. 

I hope he at least bought the drinks after that performance stix?

Yes, I owe him a beer if we're going with my rules, but I think putting up with it and showing him where the station is negates everything.

As I said, I'm done with this shit.

how dare this guy share his problems or concerns with you, OP! Awful. I can understand your affront at having to deal with the fact that other humans have feelings.

Sorry for everyone involved - Stix obviously for having to deal with him, him for being in such a state that he behaves in that fashion.  He's not to blame for whatever is in his head that makes him that needy, so deserves sympathy for that, but he sure should take responsibility for how he acts as a result of it.  No doubt he feels massive shame for his performance which will push him further along the downward spiral, hope he can break out of it and resolve whatever is causing his dependency issues, but that of course is up to him.

just curious -  at what age does "fancying" somebody stop being a deal breaker?   I don't how old you are Stix but if you are typical roffer age I would have thought personality was far more important (although granted that would seem to leave a lot to be desired in this case too).

He was perfectly fine looks wise, nice enough personality (until the crying), and would probably have been taller than me if I was in flats, I just didn't feel any chemistry.  I'm 41, I don't think I should give up on attraction just yet. The guy clearly wasn't ready to move on post-divorce.

But I am coming to the conclusion that all single men of an appropriate age are broken and I'm better off alone.

Or just shag single men of an inappropriate age on the understanding that they’re probably going to stop talking to you when they meet a more age appropriate alternative.

It’s shallow but it scratches an itch and gives you a bit of company sometimes.  That’s my take on it anyway but, you know, with women instead.

Any single woman over 35 and single man over 40 will have a reason why they are single. Some of those reasons will be dealbreakers but others may be resolvable. That's the challenge.

Fair enough Stix, I just think that rejecting somebody for lack of immediate "chemistry" once you hit your 40s if they look ok and you like their personality may be a mistake (not in this case granted as it caused him to show a personality you probably don't want to date).

I know nothing about your age and relationship status, Guy, but are you really suggesting a woman in her early 40s should settle for a bloke where there's no chemistry because he's ok looking and has a decent personality? I appreciate there is a lot to LTRs other than sex, but [for most people] sexual attraction has to be there somewhere along the line.  And the age of the protagonists has little or nothing to do with it.    

No I am suggesting that people of both sexes in middle aged may be better off considering wider factors rather  than dismissing somebody for lack of immediate chemistry if they are looking for a partner (if just looking for a shag of course - fair enough).  But each to their own on matters like this I guess

There needs to be some kind of chemistry tho - a spark, a meeting of minds.  Even if it's not sexual - I know several perfectly nice men I could never ever ever be attracted to.  I'm sure they feel the same about me. 

I agree, there has to be something. If she's not the kind of woman I would notice in the street, it wouldn't work, although that is no guarantee it would work. I'd better hope I never get divorced or widowed then as I very much doubt I notice women my age these days. Although I do look good for my age, I never looked that good at any age, so I would likely end up perp single.

Linda there does need to be a spark I agree but it is not always immediately apparent - particularly in a blind date scenario when ironically many people are at their least confident and most awkward and therefore least sexy.  I would say if you otherwise like somebody and don’t find them actively unattractive it is generally worth giving more time than a date or two

I'm with AWU on this. If it's not hell yes, it's god no. 
 

and continuing to go on desultory dates with someone because they're "nice" is not good for anyone involved 

"No I am suggesting that people of both sexes in middle aged may be better off considering wider factors rather  than dismissing somebody for lack of immediate chemistry if they are looking for a partner (if just looking for a shag of course - fair enough).  But each to their own on matters like this I guess"

Hank m7, you really gonna have to work on the whole pity shag pitch.  "Settle for me, I'm festively plump" is not gong to have the ladies rushing to change into their fancy knickers.

I struggle generally to find the enthusiasm for a first date so if you I don't feel an attraction I'm definitely not bothering with a second or third date.  Certainly though I've met people where I haven't been sure what I think after the first date so I've gone for a second to make my mind up.

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how dare this guy share his problems or concerns with you, OP! Awful. I can understand your affront at having to deal with the fact that other humans have feelings.

 

Nice to see Laz sticking up for his fellow melt there. 

Stix - think how worse it could have been.  What if he'd starting ranting on about how he was going to "boss" various improbable careers and sports due to his "word class" MBA?  

 

I am coming to the conclusion that all single men of an appropriate age are broken...

Preach. Although I think a fair amount of the problem is a lot of them are chasing younger skirt. And also completely agree that continuing to go on desultory dates with someone because they're nice is ill-advised. If I'm not sure after the first encounter, I agree to meet twice and tend to avoid drinking much on the second date just to ensure judgment not clouded. I have yet to find the chap more appealing on the second attempt, if anything it's the other way round. I think chemistry is a tricky thing to pin down. Certainly it's not just about looks but neither is it all about complimentary personalities. There are people who I think are perfectly good looking and have decent personalities but do absolutely nothing for me. There are also those who are not that conventionally attractive and have objectively quite challenging personalities but have turned my head nevertheless. What I will say is that early 40s seems to be a very difficult time to find decent men on online dating platforms. Lots to pick from in their early 30s and early 50s but big age difference either way doesn't really appeal.