It’s the cold weather 

I get it in summer too tho! But prefer this theory to mine 

Enlarged prostate

It’s a thing isn’t it - the ‘I’d better go once again before we leave even though I don’t really need to’ - fooking ageing 

A close relative of my wife didn't attend our wedding as she had a phobia of using any lavatory that wasn't one of the two in her own home. 

Talk about life limiting.

No, it isn't old age.  An ancient auntie of mine used to swear by finding the best hotel around and using their loos.

It works.  You get to wee in the nicest places.

Hah! 

Try having prostate cancer.

Judging by the flood ( pardon the pun) of TV ads regarding incontinence underwear for older ladies it’s clearly a thing. 
 

Very amusing at the Hammersmith Odeon for Steve Hackett gigs where the audience is mainly over 55 males with a taste for beer. A constant stream to and from the gents. Mrs Git had the rare pleasure of being in the shorter queue for the Ladies in the interval. 

You just have to live with it luv and have a laugh about it
 

I think I have beaten this. Wake up around 3am - need to wee. Ignore and go back to sleep. Wake up again about 3:20am. Ignore. Repeat a few times. Eventually it goes away and you get at least 2 hours of good, undisturbed sleep. See the risk of getting up for a wee is that you might not get back to sleep at all. That is much worse.

Lol, I thought this was just me.  I have to go to a party in Putney soon and I'm dreading the few pints I'll be having and the long journey home after...

It's the erratic nature of the way my bladder behaves that is perplexing. I've learned that there is a difference between a full(-ish) bladder that you can easily hold, and a full(-ish) bladder that is anguish to do so, and the difference is not simply attributable to the amount of fluid imbibed. I have no idea what accounts for the difference.

It’s definitely a menopause thing, Clergs! And defined by my GP as do you find yourself looking around for the nearest loo when you are out? So pretty much verbatim your experience. 🥺

Minnie

It is definitely not a menopause thing I *promise *

Wtf is with all these women who had menopause ten years early?

I know more pregnant women between 40 and 45 than menopausal ones. Maybe it's the stressful lifestyle of the south east.

Lifestyle in the SE of England is a hell of a lot less stressful than beyond Hadrian's Wall.

Pollution, hour plus commutes, mad rushes to get anywhere, ridiculous hours, ridiculously housing stock issues?

When I come back to Scotland I can physically feel myself relaxing (even though intellectually I enjoy London a lot).

Seriously tho I know one woman who is menopausal at 41 and she is being treated as premature (and as far as I can see needing to pee a lot is the least of her worries).

I can't imagine anything worse than getting pregnant between 40 and 45 years of age.  Keep trying Clergs!!

I know a meno woman at 43 and another at 44, which is far earlier than our mums' generation.

Re lavatory usage - Clerg - plan for a stop en route to wherever you're going then if you don't need it you gain time back - bonus :)

Risky, what have I told u.

Mm - I think it's always varied but I wouldn't be surprised if stress of modern living has made a difference. 

I know one woman who is pregnant just after her oldest has left home. I cannot imagine what possesses a person but it was appaz v much intentional.

Rhamnousia - I don't know what you have told me.  Surprise me.

For potential situations you need astro pants. Good enough for Neil Armstrong et. al. As a test I dumped a can of beer into a pair once. They soaked it all up within a couple of minutes with no real difference in appearance.

oldgrumpy is risky?

Yes 

What's unclear is if risky actually had heart surgery

I can assure you that I am not Risky.

And, yes, I most certainly did have aortic valve replacement.  Who in their right mind would make light of major surgery?

My heart condition is 100% genetic.  I wish I could trace who it originated from.  

you totally are risky, you admitted it above

I thought oldgrumpy was a woman.

(I know, I know, "what's a woman" ...)

no, it's risky pretending to be a woman

one of my least fave incarnations I must say

Oh crikey , I am female.  I don't have hairy legs.  I had heart surgery in May 2023.

I have recovered. 

It's annoying me that my heart condition is genetic.  I have googled it and found out that someone else in the 2% of the population that has this condition is Arnold Schwarzenegger.  He's had a new heart valve too.

Rhamnousia - you know I am female.  

And!  I am not overweight.  I don't smoke (and never have done) and don't over-imbibe very often.

This heart condition is a total bummer to be chucked at you.

My new valve is working very nicely.

ur a bloke

Really only an issue boozing where after the first couple of pints I have to have a pee per pint but after the fourth it calms down.  Now make sure that if I'm likely to head home after two or three I just have two and then leave plenty of time before getting on the Tube.

Only slight issue I've had is needing to go a bit more often since that chap shoved various things through my prostate to use a laser to obliterate some kidney stones.

Rhamnousia - nope!  Stop trying to wind me up, lady!

And thanks for your sympathy!  Geez.  

It is a consideration but by and large because most toilets in restaurants, pubs, gyms, and workplaces are disgusting and unclean and I’d like to avoid them if I can.

Clergs - could you lay out the basis for your belief that oldgrumpy is risky?

oldgrumpy - your 12:49 in response to Clerg's 12:46 is a bit incriminating. Could you explain?

PP - you know I am not Risky. 

I would offer to post a photo of my scar from my heart surgery but that would make anyone run a mile.

Oldgrumpy is risky is the basis for my belief

Rhamnousia - you are really tempting me to post that photo ...

Hmmm, Clergs's ipse dixit versus oldgrumpy's dodging the question ...

I have reached my conclusion: Clergs is oldgrumpy.

Tee hee.  Thanks for making me laugh out loud PP.  You've made my scar hurt.  

I am going to have the last word on this.  Heart surgery aint funny.  My surgeon went in through an artery on my neck.  My breastbone scar is where he put in a heart drain.  I now have wires holding all that together.  

The removal of the heart drain was pretty awful.

Rhamnousia - I hope you never have to experience this.