Maria Caulfield MP

Have we done this yet?

Newly appointed Minister for Women. 

Voted against legalisation of abortion in NI.

Member of All Parliamentary ‘pro-life’ group.

Voted against buffer zones outside clinics.

https://amp.theguardian.com/politics/2022/oct/30/tory-mp-maria-caulfiel…

She was on the daily politics yesterday. I thought she presented as a classic nazi tbh. ‘Everyone’s entitled to their opinion. I only represent my constituents’. She might have voted half properly, can’t remember. The point is, the discourse is profoundly debased by jokers like her. As this post proves.

don’t think we ever truly have, have we anna?

so vote 4 the least worst. which 2bh is ever the way with politicians, they always have massive flaws, not just misogyny

Which do you think is the least worst then, Serge?

Between the Tories, who are the Tories (obviously) and some of whom have expressed a vague wish to limit abortion rights, and all the other parties, who don't believe that female people exist as a distinct category of people and should be allowed to have a word for themselves or any single sex spaces?

For context, even if the Tories reduced the legal abortion limit by six whole weeks (which as far as I am aware they have no plans to do), the UK would still have the most liberal abortion laws in Europe.

not sure

but it’s definitely not the tozzas. who, woteva their correctness on the question of “wot is a woman” undeniably r worse 4 women (hence they garner less support from women, they r an old boys club - just look at the tozza conference)

i’m not convinced all the other parties actually think like that tho

but i agree it’s not overall an easy choice. the easy bit is “not tozza”

but it’s definitely not the tozzas. who, woteva their correctness on the question of “wot is a woman” undeniably r worse 4 women (hence they garner less support from women, they r an old boys club - just look at the tozza conference)

What are you actually basing this on?

i’m not convinced all the other parties actually think like that tho

So they're just saying they do (and willing to pass laws on that basis) for woke points then?

Rishi Sunak is currently getting monstered by trans activists for saying that he wants to update the Equality Act to make it clear that the protected characteristic of sex actually means biological sex and not "gender identity".

Perhaps you could consider what kind of people would consider that remotely controversial, and why.

For context, even if the Tories reduced the legal abortion limit by six whole weeks (which as far as I am aware they have no plans to do), the UK would still have the most liberal abortion laws in Europe.

heh @ this

so glad i popped back this week

quite the education in what modern “feminism” supports and doesn’t support

anna my friend, rishi sunak will be getting “monstered” by trans activists, lgbt activists, feminists, civil rights activists, environmental rights activists, human rights activists, and basically any other type of liberal / left activist by simple reason of being a tory and therefore generally being a bit of a khunt (no offence sails)

heh @ this

so glad i popped back this week

quite the education in what modern “feminism” supports and doesn’t support

Chill, I don't support any reduction in the legal abortion limit.

However, between a hypothetical, unlikely to ever become reality, situation in which the legal limit for abortion on demand might be reduced from a limit at which it is pretty much never used (because basically no women are actually having abortions at 23 weeks for non-medical reasons), and an actual, non-hypothetical scenario where the other parties don't believe female people exist as a sex class or have the right to any single sex spaces at all, I know which I consider more dangerous.

anna my friend, rishi sunak will be getting “monstered” by trans activists, lgbt activists, feminists, civil rights activists, environmental rights activists, human rights activists, and basically any other type of liberal / left activist by simple reason of being a tory and therefore generally being a bit of a khunt (no offence sails)

Actual feminists think the clarification that biological sex is and will remain a protected characteristic is good news, Chill.

It's only woke misogynists who are throwing their toys out of the pram.

Chill, I don't support any reduction in the legal abortion limit.

However, between a hypothetical, unlikely to ever become reality, situation in which the legal limit for abortion on demand might be reduced from a limit at which it is pretty much never used (because basically no women are actually having abortions at 23 weeks for non-medical reasons), and an actual, non-hypothetical scenario where the other parties don't believe female people exist as a sex class or have the right to any single sex spaces at all, I know which I consider more dangerous.

i know you don’t anna, but you must recognise that your rhetoric is only one step away from arguing “well maybe [politician] wants to restrict abortion rights but At LeAsT hE kNoWs WhAt A wOmAn Is”

i know you don’t anna, but you must recognise that your rhetoric is only one step away from arguing “well maybe [politician] wants to restrict abortion rights but At LeAsT hE kNoWs WhAt A wOmAn Is”

Not really, mate.

A better question is, why are the parties who claim to care about women's rights pretending not to know what a woman is?