Job prospects in UK for 40+ y/o solicitor in the UK at the moment

I think it was Eric B. & Rakim who first said, "It's been a long time...".  And goodness hasn't this place changed!

Q: Any chance of a 40+ y/o who fcked off to a "developing/frontier" economy about six-or-so years ago, having trained and cut teeth at one of the better US shops in the City as a corporate sol, finding employment in the UK if s/he returned?

Let's assume the City doesn't want them.  Would they be able to scratch a living in the provinces or are they unemployable?

Wide question so, if you should be so kind as to respond, a simple yes or no would be great.  Feeling a bit fretful about the future and where to raise the nippers.  They are perfectly happy where they are but one can't beat England as the greatest country in the world, obvs.

Thanks in advance sunz.

Why do you want to bring up your children in a post Brexit Britain?

Racism and petty nationalism and general khuntery is on the rise. And the economy is going down the pan. 

Inclined to say Cookie may have a point. Would be best to stick rather than twist for a little while yet...

At the end of the day you are a well qualified professional.  There will be a job for you.  Speaking as someone in a similarish boat who has looked at this in the past (and not come home in the end) the options may not be massively appealing particularly comparatively speaking on a financial basis.  You have to remember that (say) GBP75k is a very good wage in the provinces and so there is a fair bit of competition for those jobs from people whose experience may be more directly relevant than yours.

Its obviously a pain moving twice (particularly with kids) but I came to the conclusion that the best bet was to try to get back into the city for a year or two then move when your profile is less 'fresh off the boat' and then try to find a good spot from there.

Also what cookie said though.  Now seems an odd moment to cash in your chips and move back tbh.

Good point catters.  If you hang on a little while longer the political climate may have changed sufficiently that you will be able to bring your slaves back with you.

go speak to some PP recruiters 

you'll maybe have to go through 4 or 5 calls before you get to one that is any good. Ideally find an ex lawyer. 

They will quickly give you an idea.

My instinct is that it will be very hard indeed but the hardest bit will be getting into the door. Its not that you wont have a strong skillset or be able to undertake the roles you look at it will be more that from an employers perspective you are more of a risk and a way less logical option to other candidates they will be looking at. This is exactly when you need to enable a proper dialogue with these firms from the outset and you get that through a recruiter.

You can definitely call on any connections you have but my advice would be to give details of these to a recruiter to help them rather than go just through a connection. The reason being that whilst an old colleague or friend may be happy to recommend you to their boss they are unlikely to have a flat out argument with their boss if they dont want to meet with you. 

I would expect you might have more luck in-house depending on your experience. Are you practicing at the moment? 

 

I think it's a bit hysterical to assume Unnamed Frontier Economy is better than Brexit Britain. Plus depending on what you do now might be the perfect time to get in on emerging areas of work.

"I think it's a bit hysterical to assume Unnamed Frontier Economy is better than Brexit Britain."

If it's Brazil, that's a fair observation.

 

I would sort of echo what Archie said. Not because of people having flat out arguments with anyone but because you are a bit less likely to waste time talking to people who are only talking to you because your mate asked them to, not because there is an actual job going that you have a cat in hells chance of getting. Also you really do need an agent when it comes to talking salary and bringing one on board after the process has started is almost impossible without p1ssing off the people you are talking to.

Strutter - the way things are going there will be no need to bring staff back with me. I'll just pick up a couple of former corporate partners from the nearest soup kitchen and get them to be my cleaners. And I'll need cleaners for sure for the fvck off great big mansion I'll be buying for the price of a pint and a pie in the desert.

If you think the average corporate partner can clean anything other than money there's a few of them with bridges to sell you.

It really depends on the general state of the market.  If it's buoyant and people in your area are in short supply you'll probably find someone willing to give you a chance but if there's a glut firms will take people with current experience ahead of you.  This is basically what happened to me trying to move back into law in 2013.  Don't rule out doing some temp work for a while as that gets you the experience again and gets you in front of people who see what you can do and may just keep you on at the end of the temp job.

Depends where the frontier was and what you've been doing tbh.  there are plenty of london firms who like connections with China, India, Russia, mid east, etc.  also consider IH roles for companies who work in those areas (without knowing what you do or where, oil & gas springs to mind)

Depends what level you want. We're hiring for commercial, corp and banking but maybe people with less experience than you have, but you never know...(regional).

depends where the frontier was and what you've been doing tbh.  there are plenty of london firms who like connections with China, India, Russia, mid east, etc

Wot Wango said.  You can then follow the age old tradition of promising a huge amount of work from a new market for your target firm, spectacularly fail to deliver on that promise but in the 2-3 years it takes them to realise there's no chance of taking off from their generous runway and that your biz plan was more full of bollocks than a dog doctor's dustbin, you've trousered a small fortune.  

I've acted for him for 20 years at my previous firm in [lawless shytehole which really ought not to be invited to host the next Olympics] and I've only seen him murder people once. 

Thanks sunz, old and new.

Can't be fcked to continue the third person flummox (which seems to have worked quite well imo).  Some great advice (and thanks to all) - the market in which I've been working is indeed developing with huge investment from the (wide) regional, rich countries.  Fúcklords the lot of them though.

I should be very content to stay here but the old dear is deteriorating rapidly etc. etc. and the cost of half decent education is 'ucking ridiculous.  Healthcare?  Lollerz.  Takes a trip to another country for anything worthwhile.  However, the Great White Hope (I'm not necessarily white, but English nonetheless) will prevail in this jurisdiction until the next native generation gets up to speed.

Doing the same shit I was doing back in the City but with sweatier weather.  FWIW, the (literally) ultimate goal is to obtain planning permission in a national park (or skirt by virtue of a "horse shelter" or somesuch) and earn enough to live a simple but comfortable life.

Again, when it comes to matters of the heart, ROF (and its denizens) has delivered some nice. 

./. ((c) Bamsun)