I follow rugby and I'm an Irish rugby fan and I'm not seeing the "wa wa wa" you speak of. Simon Easterby has said it doesn't change how Ireland selects their replacements.
Granted, South Africa are fast in the rucks and they are signaling their intent to keep the ball in rucks, this can be countered by clever kicking to keep them running and tire them out... so I expect they'll target Johnny and Gibson Park early on. Well, if we play the ref properly, SA can expect yellows
Obviously the World Cup is a festival celebrating the game itself and the overriding message is respect for everyone regardless of where they are from and who they support
“I think it will change after the World Cup, I don’t think it will be allowed to happen going forward, but it’s within the law, and I think it’s playing to their strengths,” he told the Off The Ball podcast.
I've read what Wood says now. He's quite measured and not whinging. The reaction of every other Irish player and commentator I've seen has been to shrug, and none of my Irish friends have said anything like this.
Tbh your football-style whining and catastrophising about everything (as in this thread) isn't really the way things are done in rugby.
It is a teeny bit whiny from Wood tbh... and I don't see why the rules would be changed to prevent it. There are no safety concerns with having to play a forward as a back if that is what ends up happening. It is however a big risk for SA in terms of the game.
You wouldn't want to be the Springbok back line, particularly not the full back. If Ireland have any sense at all (which they do) and an accurate kicker (which they definitely do) they will be kicking to draw the South African full back into a few big knocks early on...
That is still very much drilled in to kids at rugby today as well Eddie but you have to admit the professional game has lost far too much of that attitude. It is quite funny having Davos as an Englishman point the finger at others for it given they are by far the worst offenders in the six nations but both Sexton and Biggar (among many others) are way over the line far too often. Hopefully Fiji will continue to show that it is still possible to behave properly and win.
I agree Wang. Ireland just don't like the idea of getting a double dose of being thumped up front and probably have a more fragile/injury prone backline than SA so couldn't risk not having subs.
"It is quite funny having Davos as an Englishman point the finger at others for it given they are by far the worst offenders in the six nations but both Sexton and Biggar (among many others) are way over the line far too often"
This is absolute nonsense. England lack a proper influence over the ref and part of that is the lack of moaning. Biggar and sexton get away with so much but there is no chance an England player gets away with anything close to it
If SA want to sacrifice cover in the backs for an extra forward that is their business and Ireland moaning about it is of idiotic
"Tbh your football-style whining and catastrophising about everything (as in this thread) isn't really the way things are done in rugby."
You've just exposed yourself as someone who has never seen sexton or biggar play
Not sure why you want to pray them in aid to justify your behaviour. There are people who behave like khunts in any sport. Noone in rugby sees them as role models. Except you, apparently.
However, I think there are far too many subs anyway and the introduction of so many forwards means teams are stuck in a stalemate for too long and there's less flowing play, which is bad for spectators. This just exacerbates it. But its not unfair.
Davos - it was the likes of Johnson and Guscott who lead the (downward) charge on respect for the ref and Farrell is just as bad (see e.g. his nervous breakdown at the ref while losing to wales in 2021 for which he should definitely have been carded frankly).
Ah when the ref changed the rules of rugby to make sure England lost
Yeah I can see why Farrell was annoyed
That's not as bad as sexton's (attempted) intimidation of the match officials but I would have had no issue with Farrell being carded for it - the fact is the ref couldn't as the ref had already made a fool of himself
It was quite interesting as a Scotland fan when Jesse Kriel should have seen red against us.
The England fans and particularly Davos were crying harder about it than we were. It was obviously fvck up not conspiracy, and sure it was badly handled afterwards. But we didn't play well enough to win the game anyway. You don't crypost a load of trumpian qanon bullshit about a conspiracy.
As an aside, I feel like the lateral-but-with-forward-momentum pass that comes out the back of the hand but is caught well in front of where it is released is becoming more and more extreme these days.
Our 90s selves watching modern rugby would have been quite confused I reckon.
As an aside, I feel like the lateral-but-with-forward-momentum pass that comes out the back of the hand but is caught well in front of where it is released is becoming more and more extreme these days.
Our 90s selves watching modern rugby would have been quite confused I reckon.
this, with bells on. there r so many now - the sa try was exactly this
I think zombie is about a child that was killed. I think it's supposed to be about the dreadful consequences of violence and sectarianism more than anything. cba to google
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Yeah pretty tragic
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Link? I've not seen anything like that. Would be weird if there was.
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Spirius doesn't follow rugby?
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I follow rugby and I'm an Irish rugby fan and I'm not seeing the "wa wa wa" you speak of. Simon Easterby has said it doesn't change how Ireland selects their replacements.
Granted, South Africa are fast in the rucks and they are signaling their intent to keep the ball in rucks, this can be countered by clever kicking to keep them running and tire them out... so I expect they'll target Johnny and Gibson Park early on. Well, if we play the ref properly, SA can expect yellows
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It's very rare for Ireland not to have a ref biased in their favour
But maybe Google what ex Ireland captain Keith wood has been whinging about. Actually calling got 7/1 split to be banned. Little arrogant loser.
"Oh wah wah wah south Africa have made a tactical decision and it's not fair on Ireland as we have a right to win"
The arrogance is staggering
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I have lost a lot of respect for Irish rugby over their crying about who SA pick
Arrogant cucks make me quite angry
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Obviously the World Cup is a festival celebrating the game itself and the overriding message is respect for everyone regardless of where they are from and who they support
that said, I hope Ireland fvcking batter them
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Don't really care who wins
I prefer Farrell to the SA coaching team mind
Sexton probably one of the least likeable characters in world rugby and Kolisi one of the most likeable
Hopefully it will be a good game 👍
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You're a little triggered huh...
This is what Woodsy said
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I've read what Wood says now. He's quite measured and not whinging. The reaction of every other Irish player and commentator I've seen has been to shrug, and none of my Irish friends have said anything like this.
Tbh your football-style whining and catastrophising about everything (as in this thread) isn't really the way things are done in rugby.
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Keith wood
"I don't think a 7-1 split is necessarily fair" goes on to say it should be banned
You cucks have been cucked by your own bias and arrogance
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"Tbh your football-style whining and catastrophising about everything (as in this thread) isn't really the way things are done in rugby."
You've just exposed yourself as someone who has never seen sexton or biggar play
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It is a teeny bit whiny from Wood tbh... and I don't see why the rules would be changed to prevent it. There are no safety concerns with having to play a forward as a back if that is what ends up happening. It is however a big risk for SA in terms of the game.
You wouldn't want to be the Springbok back line, particularly not the full back. If Ireland have any sense at all (which they do) and an accurate kicker (which they definitely do) they will be kicking to draw the South African full back into a few big knocks early on...
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"ungentlemanly conduct" and show respect to your opponent was drilled into me by my rugby coaches as a youngster.
Martin Johnson made me lose respect for England. Look up why.
Guscott, an unbearable moaner about everything..
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I don't understand why it's not fair, surely anyone can do it?
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That is still very much drilled in to kids at rugby today as well Eddie but you have to admit the professional game has lost far too much of that attitude. It is quite funny having Davos as an Englishman point the finger at others for it given they are by far the worst offenders in the six nations but both Sexton and Biggar (among many others) are way over the line far too often. Hopefully Fiji will continue to show that it is still possible to behave properly and win.
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I agree Wang. Ireland just don't like the idea of getting a double dose of being thumped up front and probably have a more fragile/injury prone backline than SA so couldn't risk not having subs.
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"It is quite funny having Davos as an Englishman point the finger at others for it given they are by far the worst offenders in the six nations but both Sexton and Biggar (among many others) are way over the line far too often"
This is absolute nonsense. England lack a proper influence over the ref and part of that is the lack of moaning. Biggar and sexton get away with so much but there is no chance an England player gets away with anything close to it
If SA want to sacrifice cover in the backs for an extra forward that is their business and Ireland moaning about it is of idiotic
It's like moaning that a team is playing 3-5-2
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"Tbh your football-style whining and catastrophising about everything (as in this thread) isn't really the way things are done in rugby."
You've just exposed yourself as someone who has never seen sexton or biggar play
Not sure why you want to pray them in aid to justify your behaviour. There are people who behave like khunts in any sport. Noone in rugby sees them as role models. Except you, apparently.
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It's completely fair and within the rules.
However, I think there are far too many subs anyway and the introduction of so many forwards means teams are stuck in a stalemate for too long and there's less flowing play, which is bad for spectators. This just exacerbates it. But its not unfair.
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Enough already with your whining about the ref. It's complete bollocks and utterly pathetic.
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Davos - it was the likes of Johnson and Guscott who lead the (downward) charge on respect for the ref and Farrell is just as bad (see e.g. his nervous breakdown at the ref while losing to wales in 2021 for which he should definitely have been carded frankly).
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Ah when the ref changed the rules of rugby to make sure England lost
Yeah I can see why Farrell was annoyed
That's not as bad as sexton's (attempted) intimidation of the match officials but I would have had no issue with Farrell being carded for it - the fact is the ref couldn't as the ref had already made a fool of himself
People like spurious just make things up though
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Blaming England for the 'downward charge in respect for the ref' (whatever that means) is just xenophobia to excuse other team's behaviour
As a fan of the sport (and a working class one at that) I like to judge people on their actions not their nationality
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I think Davos is sad that the Irish have an annoyingly southern hempisphere approach to the breakdown in that they try to win the ball back.
The days of referees blatantly preferring Ireland are long gone.*
*most irishmen these days will concede that O'Driscoll never knowingly passed the ball backwards.**
**except when he played for the lions, obviously
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As an aside that delicious ironic meltdown NZ had when France beat them in 2007 as a result of a forward pass will live long in the memory
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It was quite interesting as a Scotland fan when Jesse Kriel should have seen red against us.
The England fans and particularly Davos were crying harder about it than we were. It was obviously fvck up not conspiracy, and sure it was badly handled afterwards. But we didn't play well enough to win the game anyway. You don't crypost a load of trumpian qanon bullshit about a conspiracy.
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As an aside, I feel like the lateral-but-with-forward-momentum pass that comes out the back of the hand but is caught well in front of where it is released is becoming more and more extreme these days.
Our 90s selves watching modern rugby would have been quite confused I reckon.
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I find the Irish fans singing zombie so much more moving than when they sing their national anthem. Just me?
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just you, it's in your head.
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this, with bells on. there r so many now - the sa try was exactly this
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is zombie an anti IRA song? i think it might be. that was pure class at the end tbf
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It's about Warrington.
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I think zombie is about a child that was killed. I think it's supposed to be about the dreadful consequences of violence and sectarianism more than anything. cba to google
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Yes Warrington bombing, killed 2 children
caused outrage in the republic and was for many people the final straw in terms of successive govts turning a blind eye to IRA activity
The Irish govt introduced extradition measures shortly afterwards
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