Miss Swiss Tony has found a rather adorable dog to buy. The current owners wanted a puppy but then decided to buy two from the same litter, and have now realised that they can't cope with two dogs, so they need to offload one of them.
How does one work out the market price when you have a sort-of-forced seller, and not-desperate buyer?
Has anyone done this before?
Obviously, my wife will take the lead on this, as she is barking mad. I hope that suffices for puns.
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free because you're doing them a massive favour and bailing them out from their stupidity?
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You see, in many ways, buying a second-hand dog is a lot like making love to a beautiful woman...
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Something about a large growler?
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How young is it? Unless it's still very young/trainable, I'd look at it as a rescue like pancakes says.
You won't know what bad habits it has etc and the 'market price' of a rescue isn't very much - more of donation to the relevant charity to cover vet expenses/running costs (which isn't relevant here).
We took on an 8 month old from a farmer and paid about half the normal cost of a puppy, possibly overpaid but it had had all its vet checks/jabs, decent level of training etc, and Mrs DB was a desperate buyer (are you sure Miss ST is a not-desperate buyer?!). Maybe reimburse the cost of neutering if they've had that done already?
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Cheapest part of a dog is buying it.
Go on pets 4 homes. You will see numerous 5 month old dogs, they are usually about half the cost of an 8 week puppy.
You haven't said how old it is, which is the relevant factor.
You also sound wholly unsuited to pet ownership because you are commoditising this puppy and not concentrating on its welfare, issues it may have developed and the impact of a third rehome.
FYI, the stats for young rehomes are not great. You will need to be patient with this puppy
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Ring your local kebab shop. They will confirm the going rate.
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Doggers is going to be putting you in touch with international grifter I O Hughes
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For some reason Pets4Homes or whatever they are called have taken to emailing me once a week a list of mutts priced from £10 - £200 all of which seem to be young dogs from about 5 to 15 months of age. Presumably a glut at the moment.
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Dogwarden - this is our second dog, and we are fully cognizant of the welfare issues for the dog. We were recommended to the selling family by our current dog's trainer. The dog is 5 months's old but seemed perfectly well adjusted on our first meeting. We have hosted dogs with PTSD from Ukraine and had numerous rescue dogs when growing up, so hopefully we have some eye for the issues.
Whilst a dog is not a commodity, it still has a price which has to be negotiated with the seller,, but 50% sounds about right.
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Swisstony,
I apologise.
I took your post as the entire story, which I shouldn't have done.
Sorry.
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Massive glut of non-puppies at the moment
1. Lock down UK over breeding
2. Lock down rescue importing for people who couldn't get a UK puppy
3. Changes in "trendy" dogs and
4. Cost of living crisis.
50% may be generous, however, consider that they may not be being careful in rehoming if you don't take it.
I'm trying not to import dogs at the moment, ours our mainly going to Germany because of the kill rate for UK dogs at the moment.
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DW, apology accepted.
The selling family are very nice, and have trained the puppy well. They were just a bit naive in going from zero to two dogs in one step. As with everything else in Switzerland, dog ownership requires registration, taxation and mandatory vaccination and health checks.
It is even illegal to own a solitary rabbit or gerbil in CH - as they are social animals, the owner has an obligation to ensure they do not live alone.
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Well, first you look at it's adoring wide eyes while it pants at you, longingly. Then, you gently pat it on the head. Next, you give it a stroke. If it hasn't bitten your hand off by this point, then you take it home.
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You're taking on a multi year thousands of pounds liability relieving them of it. They made a mistake, frankly a pretty stupid one, and should be grateful that it's going to go to a good home. That's all they should care about and the fact that you're having to negotiate a price with them, to correct their mistake, to relieve them of a burden they don't in the form of a sentient creature, want makes me want to puke a bit. Of course you are willing to pay but that they are asking you to (and presumably would go somewhere else if offered a better price) makes them total dicks.
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Describe puppies!
To the original question, anything from nowt (per Buzz) and half. No-one feels "done". And the toilet training/few nights of howling have been addressed.
However, bear in mind that the pup may feel a wrench in being separated from sibling. Play dates?
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Buzz, we have not even discussed a price yet. They may not even want money for the dog, so lets not impugn malice just yet. However, I assume some payment is made given that dogs are quite expensive, and they will have paid vets' bills etc.
I just don't know what the protocol is here. We don't want to exploit our possibly stronger negotiating position.
We met the puppy at the grandmother's house and it did not seem to exhibit any separation anxiety. He immediately jumped onto my lap and sat there for ages. Stressed dogs behave very differently (our erstwhile Ukrainian dog is a nutter, except with me)
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lets not impugn malice just yet
*sulks*
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My dog came to me in similar circumstances, although a bit older and a biter so they couldn't manage. She just needed training actually. I didn't offer any money, they were relieved to find a good home. I don't see a reason to pay here, you are taking on the cost of the dog for future.
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