Laz has a young family and has moved to a part of the world that still follows the grammar schools system. Presumably that was a big pull in his decision making - and given that Labour are too frightened to propose any changes to anything, then grammar schools will be here to stay, and what he will save in school fees will offset any potential drop in prices - but assuming the lazgaff is a family home, these houses (commutable to london, in leafy areas with good m25 access) will always sell well.
"has moved to a part of the world that still follows the grammar schools system. Presumably that was a big pull in his decision making"
Why do people who do this assume their offspring will be among the 10% or whatever who gain entry? 11+ is basically a lottery of who can remember the most stuff, with everyone trying very hard. Besides, I'm sure Laz can afford to send them to Sevenoaks or Tonbridge.
11+ has become a measure of which kids had the most tutoring. This has made the model obsolete.
People want to do their best for their own kids and are happy with the inequality that means. They are taking the place of brighter but poorer kids, reducing the overall standards in grammar classes. They may as well all be comps now.
This is why the we have a Tory government, because people are basically aunts happy to tread on those less fortunate.
Dux - its 20-30% and although the system is a bit of a lottery most state schools dont like to prep their kids for it for political reasons. So much of the working/lower middle class is up against it right away.
But if you are two middle class lawyers and invest a bit in the tutoring your odds are very good.
In fact down here in East Kent the local population is so poor that they have additional Dover and Folkestone tests because not enough of the local kids are able to pass the Kent Test which is dominated by kids in West Kent/London who have been hothoused to insanity to get into the Superselectives over that way.
So the Worfettes got to take two different tests: Kent plus Dover/Follestone. This obviously reduces the risk of a single bad day blow up and the local test is, obviously, a bit easier/lower pass mark. With some tutoring and a bit of a extra work, their odds were, I think, very high indeed.
That said the test itself, particularly the Kent, is a bit of a shambles - 25 qs per paper all have to be passed. Most kids probably getting 12-20 right with pass at about 15-17 depending upon age. As far as I can tell a lot futures turn on the 8 medium hard Qs. Which is, unless well tutored, is a total crapshoot. Im sure (and the Worfettes confirm) there are some surprisingly thick kids that get through. Equally there are loads of quite bright kids that flunk it on the day.
tbh the academies in the nicer Kent towns are very good
Sevenoaks Trinity would be our local one and has the bonus of sounding like the kind of American high school whose football team plays Odessa Permian in the all-American school bowl or whatever they call it
I passed the 12+ as it was then, as a kid but recently had to do a similar test for a job application process which was basically the same thing... finding the next pattern in a sequence and such jazz
I was useless at it, pretty sure I flunked the tests
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How can it be the top of the market when according to someone who talks about houses a lot:
High Guise 01 Sep 21 11:27
As I have previously made clear, house prices only go up.
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Only in Clifton, only in Clifton.
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Laz has a young family and has moved to a part of the world that still follows the grammar schools system. Presumably that was a big pull in his decision making - and given that Labour are too frightened to propose any changes to anything, then grammar schools will be here to stay, and what he will save in school fees will offset any potential drop in prices - but assuming the lazgaff is a family home, these houses (commutable to london, in leafy areas with good m25 access) will always sell well.
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Only in his imagination
Clifton, only in his imaginationClifton.0
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Tbf, we have all had a good laugh at strutter’s gaff.
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Not to mention the fact that the peak of the market was about six months ago.
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If there's a gaffe round here that people are laughing at, I think we know who made it.
Poor little hyoobert - tell us, you do actually come here for the humiliation don't you? Please be honest, we won't judge.
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Why do people who do this assume their offspring will be among the 10% or whatever who gain entry? 11+ is basically a lottery of who can remember the most stuff, with everyone trying very hard. Besides, I'm sure Laz can afford to send them to Sevenoaks or Tonbridge.
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Although of course tonbridge is all boys
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paying to get your kids coached to pass the 11 plus or equivalent is cheaper than £150k on school fees for 6 years.
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Is it really? How old-fashioned.
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If everyone or almost everyone gets coached the playing field "levels up", no?
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Unfortunately it also costs them their childhood
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who the fvck worries about “the top of the market” when buying a house to live in
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also, top of the market in commuter land was at least 18mths ago now
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11+ has become a measure of which kids had the most tutoring. This has made the model obsolete.
People want to do their best for their own kids and are happy with the inequality that means. They are taking the place of brighter but poorer kids, reducing the overall standards in grammar classes. They may as well all be comps now.
This is why the we have a Tory government, because people are basically aunts happy to tread on those less fortunate.
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Dux - its 20-30% and although the system is a bit of a lottery most state schools dont like to prep their kids for it for political reasons. So much of the working/lower middle class is up against it right away.
But if you are two middle class lawyers and invest a bit in the tutoring your odds are very good.
In fact down here in East Kent the local population is so poor that they have additional Dover and Folkestone tests because not enough of the local kids are able to pass the Kent Test which is dominated by kids in West Kent/London who have been hothoused to insanity to get into the Superselectives over that way.
So the Worfettes got to take two different tests: Kent plus Dover/Follestone. This obviously reduces the risk of a single bad day blow up and the local test is, obviously, a bit easier/lower pass mark. With some tutoring and a bit of a extra work, their odds were, I think, very high indeed.
That said the test itself, particularly the Kent, is a bit of a shambles - 25 qs per paper all have to be passed. Most kids probably getting 12-20 right with pass at about 15-17 depending upon age. As far as I can tell a lot futures turn on the 8 medium hard Qs. Which is, unless well tutored, is a total crapshoot. Im sure (and the Worfettes confirm) there are some surprisingly thick kids that get through. Equally there are loads of quite bright kids that flunk it on the day.
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tbh the academies in the nicer Kent towns are very good
Sevenoaks Trinity would be our local one and has the bonus of sounding like the kind of American high school whose football team plays Odessa Permian in the all-American school bowl or whatever they call it
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Yep - agreed to buy in Nov, completed Feb. And now failing to sell the one we need to sell… double 🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️
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I passed the 12+ as it was then, as a kid but recently had to do a similar test for a job application process which was basically the same thing... finding the next pattern in a sequence and such jazz
I was useless at it, pretty sure I flunked the tests
It's all just practice
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