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Good on NZ, leading the world on human rights once again

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/300839091/antitrans-activist-posie-par…

Bigots out.  The country that was the first to bring in the vote for women leads again in standing up for the rights of another persecuted and marginalised group.  Well done to all involved.  

ACT's tourism spokesperson Dr James McDowall told Newshub it's disappointing but not surprising people are shocked by what happened in Auckland.

"In a civilised country, you counter ideas you don't like with more speech and debate, not violence and intimidation," he said.

"Tourism businesses have been hammered over the past few years, they can't afford for potential tourists to have another reason to take their money elsewhere.

"The Government didn't promote rational behaviour, Ministers actually joined in on the witch-hunt. It sends a message that New Zealand isn't capable of rational debate and allowing people to speak freely."

I thought she was campaigning for women's rights, rather than being specifically anti-trans i.e. similar to JKR and just generally supporting the VAST majority.

Tuesday sums it up well. The weightlifting and sports communities now agree that NZ's position on sports was wrong.

@Warren - Why do you hate women?

Marama Davidson, Green Party co-leader said of the crowd violence:

“Trans people are a taonga... and trans people are tired of being oppressed and discriminated.

I am a prevention violence minister, and I know what causes violence in this world and it’s white cis men.”

so racism and sexism seems to be par for the course in NZ.

One of my hippy left wing friends used to be quite judgemental of my TERF views.

She let a trans person live with her who she met on sparerooms. Said trans ended up being psycho, threatening my friend, trashing my friend's flat, and basically being a mentalist. The ex-bloke did all this and when they got kicked out, accused my friend of being anti-trans (when she was the exact opposite).

My friend no longer judges my TERF views.

Good on NZ, leading the world on human rights once again

Warren 27 Mar 23 09:03

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whatever your position on Trans rights (which seem to be in a pretty good place in the west), this is not on, this is intimidation of people with some legitimate concerns and silencing opposition akin to blackshirts 

it's not a good look for campaigners to adopt a "we're the yobs" stance and it won't win any converts

honestly rethinking my own position on this stuff 

I definitely think people who think The Right Side Of History are the men with signs saying "Choke on my ladyd1ck, TERF Cvnts" when women are asking to be allowed to speak should perhaps take a step back.

Not to mention the danger in not knowing what has been thrown, and how harmful it is, at the time. We live in times where men throw acid at women to punish them. We live in times where men pour bottles of cosmetics over women to humiliate them, to try to stop them from leaving the home.

I supposed as a porn-addled middle aged bloke Laz has a lot in common with many trans-identifying males.  Maybe he just needs one nudge to get him over the line to AGP.

‘Also Tomlin, what are your views on women being assaulted?  No reaction at all to a pensioner getting punched in the head?’

Hi Tom. I condemn it, just as I do and have repeatedly condemned abuse and threats made to GCs on twitter.

Have just scoured a few threads and can find nothing from you on the assault on a female protestor at the event? Or indeed any condemnation of abuse, bullying and threats made to trans inclusive feminists?

Perhaps you could clarify.

Have just scoured a few threads and can find nothing from you on the assault on a female protestor at the event?

Didn't see any.  Happy to condemn any violence I see.  Can't condemn violence I don't.

Back to your question, still unanswered:

What Laz said at 10.19.

Perhaps, unlike Laz, you can answer Anna's question?

Then what is it?

I seldom watch pornography, but were I to do so I’d certainly consider the trans offering. Daisy Taylor is hot. And yes I think size matters - nothing completes a beautiful woman like a rock hard nine inch c0ck.

Chinorder enters the thread and is immediately harangued by maniacs demanding he agree with them completely or face a fatal sealioning. asked to explain what views he thinks KJK holds which mean that he thinks what happened to her in NZ was good.

Fixed it.

"The man who tipped liquid over KJK has now been invited to the United Nations to the Honour Women for Women's Month event."

Oh my...  From what I've read about her, PP seems like a hateful woman, and she certainly isn't a spokewoman for my version of feminism or for my position on women's rights and the trans issue, but obviously (although, I guess it isn't obvious?) physically assaulting her is absolutely inexcusable (and that is the case even if she wasn't "at risk of death" as our favourite RoF gasbag has tried to suggest a few times).

What on earth was whoever made the invitation thinking???  It is a really extraordinarily stupid and, yes, dangerous thing to do, for an international body to be seen to actively endorse and even applaud a physical assault on a woman (or on any person, for that matter).

That just cannot be true...

The man who assaulted KJK is Eli (Eliana) Rubashkyn.  His LinkedIn profile says:

Eli Rubashkyn. GIESC Program Officer at ILGA World, Intersex Human Rights at the UN.

Which is obviously fine, Anna (not that she needs my permission, of course!), but she also seems to "care a lot" about other stuff that isn't quite so benign.  Certainly, at the very least, she has been content to repeatedly use the platform / money of people and organisations whose publicly stated aims are hateful.

On the other hand, if the entire media goes round saying she's a far right activist with Nazi sympathies, is it really all that surprising if neo-Nazis show up at events where she is speaking?

It's OK though, because the Antifa are there.  They'll sort them out.

Oh, they're too busy punching grannies.

Nobody want to comment on the hate speech used by that Green Party woman against cis men?

Anna tuglite about neo nazis being in the same tent as her. 
 

wotta shokka

 

Erm...yet you can't cite anything to support your claims, Tuesday.  

You're jealous.  

You're a bit old to be jealous.  One would have hoped that you'd learn how to regulate your emotions by your age, but hey-ho.  

In her response, Davidson said: “I know what causes violence in this world and it’s white cis men.

She shouldn't have said that.  She should have said men.  Men of all colours cause most of the violence in the world.

She didn’t say ‘most violence’ which I might be able to accept as fact as long as contextualised (the burden of defending children, women, society falls unequally and unfairly on men owing to structural matriarchy and toxic femininity).

she said ‘violence’ which I interpret to mean ‘all violence’ which is incorrect and in my view is sexist hate speech.

You are asbolutely correct that some violence is perpetrated by women.  I respect your right to consider the inclusion of the word "all" as misandrist hate speech.

 

“I supposed as a porn-addled middle aged bloke Laz has a lot in common with many trans-identifying males.”

sorry a council house says what

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