I see Israel has instructed hospitals to evacuate their patients, including those on dialysis or in intensive care, with absolutely no regard for the fact that this is impossible in practical terms
Was that why the Israelis launched airstrikes against trucks full of civilians fleeing south? To help clear the only road? How thoughtful!
This incident (I assume we are talking about the same one, two open-bed trucks with civilians riding on top geo-located by the BBC) could not have been an accident. We all know from the Ukraine war footage that drones permit highly accurate identification of vehicles. This was a deliberate, targeted attack.
I mean...Israel are the ones who are launching airstrikes. It's not disputed that they have killed thousands of Palestinians in the past few days. I think it was them.
It could well be IDF and would be shockingly unforgivable if so. However, Hamas have been sending rockets daily themselves and are known to want to stop people fleeing south. I just want to know the facts before I condemn one side or the other out of hand for this particular incident.
short of an actual admission from the IDF, which will obviously never be forthcoming, how could you know for certain that it was them? I mean they are definitely engaged in the enthusiastic bombing of Gaza, but I agree it’s impossible to know for sure. it could have been Hamas. I suppose it could also have been a meteorite
I mean they are definitely engaged in the enthusiastic bombing of Gaza
And Hamas is definitely engaged in the enthusiastic demands that people not flee Gaza and thus denude their human shield capabilities. As well as having a record for planting IEDs.
we all agree that IDF bombing has killed thousands of Gazans in the past week…but this specific incident that is on the BBC…that was actually Hamas, honest
one reason it would be good if europe had some kind of common command military unit of its own would be that europe might have the political will to send peacekeepers in to Gaza, which the US, which dominates NATO and the UN, will never support
oh laz oh laz that’s just because europeans are all massive anti-semites isn’t it
no
we are talking about peacekeeping a specific territorial dispute the participants in which have been singularly unable to maintain peaceful dialogue
sure, you’d hope that such a force, had europe the gumption to actually create what would be the world’s greatest and most reliable force for non reactionary policing of international norms, would have occupied itself in the ukezone dealing out some slap-pwn to the Russians. However, no reason it a manpower could not be expanded.
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I see Hamas as chosen to put 2 massive lorries across the roads to pen their people in who want to leave and ensure their deaths.
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Was that why the Israelis launched airstrikes against trucks full of civilians fleeing south? To help clear the only road? How thoughtful!
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Yeah those guys. Take ‘em out
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I see Israel has instructed hospitals to evacuate their patients, including those on dialysis or in intensive care, with absolutely no regard for the fact that this is impossible in practical terms
https://www.who.int/news/item/14-10-2023-evacuation-orders-by-israel-to-hospitals-in-northern-gaza-are-a-death-sentence-for-the-sick-and-injured
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(Hamas)
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This incident (I assume we are talking about the same one, two open-bed trucks with civilians riding on top geo-located by the BBC) could not have been an accident. We all know from the Ukraine war footage that drones permit highly accurate identification of vehicles. This was a deliberate, targeted attack.
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Jelly - has it been confirmed it was an IDF strike? Last I saw both sides were blaming the other for it.
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I mean...Israel are the ones who are launching airstrikes. It's not disputed that they have killed thousands of Palestinians in the past few days. I think it was them.
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Biblical eh?
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It could well be IDF and would be shockingly unforgivable if so. However, Hamas have been sending rockets daily themselves and are known to want to stop people fleeing south. I just want to know the facts before I condemn one side or the other out of hand for this particular incident.
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Pretty sure neither side is holding its breath for the judgment of rof
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Weird how allegations of false flags are only made against the Jews
Very weird
What could be the reason?
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the facts will never be available
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short of an actual admission from the IDF, which will obviously never be forthcoming, how could you know for certain that it was them? I mean they are definitely engaged in the enthusiastic bombing of Gaza, but I agree it’s impossible to know for sure. it could have been Hamas. I suppose it could also have been a meteorite
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The UN is of course both entirely able to stop this and entirely unable to stop this
If US UK EU countries etc all said it stops now and here is 100,000 troops to ensure a two state solution and peace, then it might work in time
But it won't
So UN is basically pointless
Same as with Ukraine genocide
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And Hamas is definitely engaged in the enthusiastic demands that people not flee Gaza and thus denude their human shield capabilities. As well as having a record for planting IEDs.
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sure, sure. the IDF wouldn’t bomb Palestinian civilians, that’s just for Hamas. 😉
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we all agree that IDF bombing has killed thousands of Gazans in the past week…but this specific incident that is on the BBC…that was actually Hamas, honest
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like I say we won’t ever know for certain. I think it’s pretty obvious though.
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Why do you hate Jews, Chimp?
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like I said, you are a very boring troll
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Good OP but I've done this before, in my thread pointing out that world leaders often like to tell someone their behaviour is 'unacceptable'.
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one reason it would be good if europe had some kind of common command military unit of its own would be that europe might have the political will to send peacekeepers in to Gaza, which the US, which dominates NATO and the UN, will never support
oh laz oh laz that’s just because europeans are all massive anti-semites isn’t it
no
we are talking about peacekeeping a specific territorial dispute the participants in which have been singularly unable to maintain peaceful dialogue
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I don't disagree laz but that force would surely currently be a bit occupied in Ukrainian peace keeping?
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sure, you’d hope that such a force, had europe the gumption to actually create what would be the world’s greatest and most reliable force for non reactionary policing of international norms, would have occupied itself in the ukezone dealing out some slap-pwn to the Russians. However, no reason it a manpower could not be expanded.
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Better get myself a medical exemption then 🤣
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