I'm not sure it's nationwide, but near us the industry seems entirely controlled by members of the travelling community. It went up and down sharpish so labour costs are low, material costs relatively cheap - I smell cartel activity.
Wait until you try getting them to take it down. They never want to dismantle it and take it back the yard and unload and then load it again so they'll just wait until they've got a new job and take it straight from your place to the new site. When I wanted mine taken down once I'd got the roof on my house they were always coming next week but then the lorry would break down again and they'd have to leave it another week. Eventually threatened to start charging them storage.
Bloke I know was quoted £12K for one of those over the roof canopy jobs when he was having a loft conversion and re-roof. Sizeable detached house, but still.
Didn't go for it then got hit by a storm and suffered massive rain damage on his first floor.
I've got a lovely little tower I use for clearing gutters and bits as far better than standing up a ladder hoping it doesn't slip.
My scaffolding was horrendously expensive as it had to hold up the original wooden frame of the building while we put modern foundations under it. On top of that got held up by the planners so it was in place rather longer than anticipated.
my parents r doing up multiple barns and a farm house over 3 years, so need scaffolding throughout the time. enough to fit round a farm house scaffolding cost £11k brand new and in good condition keeps resale value (currently c.25% discount only)
In my limited experience of scaffolding, they will leave it there much longer than you want. Much more work for them to put it into storage rather than just moving it to the next job. One time they left an abusive graffiti after we threatened to sue them to get rid of the fooking thing. Absolute arseholes.
no my point is good luck enforcing any judgment against them...if you even get that far in one piece
I agreed to pay my scaffolders 10k cash and was a few days late paying as I couldn't withdraw it all in one go and the boss of the business turned up to collect it personally. thankfully I had it ready but he appeared quite ready to escalate matters had I not.
It was the house commune or whatever you call it that threatened to sue. Once that happened the scaffolding was gone pretty soon. They did graffiti the building though. Knuts.
Maybe a negotiation note for anyone possibly involved in building contracts. 500 pound storage fee per week for the scaffolding once the work has been completed.
To be fair mine did stop charging the rental at the point that I told them they could take it away. Mutterings about litigation also finally persuaded them to come and take it down.
Gypsies will definitely break into a bungalow quite easily. Thank goodness I live in an apartment on the 5th floor. From there I can look and point at all the scumbags like you. Hahahaha!
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How high is your house?
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And if those are typical scaffolders, payment in cash would be very much preferred.
That said, unless your house if huge even by rof standards I'd probably get a couple of additional estimates as that seems a little toppy to me.
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Three stories above ground level. I've not measured it. Ceilings are high on all floors but it's a pretty standard size.
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Have you written to Sadiq Khan asking what he will do about it?
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You seem a bit obsessed
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"Three storeys above ground level" Do you mean four storeys?
Do you require a tin hat? Width of each elevation?
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Cost me £700 to get some put up inside our hall to replace our chandelier.
#costalivs
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Plus are there access issues - will the lads be walking 50 yards from the truck to the site
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It's crazy, pinko.
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I'm not sure it's nationwide, but near us the industry seems entirely controlled by members of the travelling community. It went up and down sharpish so labour costs are low, material costs relatively cheap - I smell cartel activity.
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Wait until you try getting them to take it down. They never want to dismantle it and take it back the yard and unload and then load it again so they'll just wait until they've got a new job and take it straight from your place to the new site. When I wanted mine taken down once I'd got the roof on my house they were always coming next week but then the lorry would break down again and they'd have to leave it another week. Eventually threatened to start charging them storage.
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Summon prodders to the thread!
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Bloke I know was quoted £12K for one of those over the roof canopy jobs when he was having a loft conversion and re-roof. Sizeable detached house, but still.
Didn't go for it then got hit by a storm and suffered massive rain damage on his first floor.
Heh
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That is not London by the way, that is In The North
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Would say get 3 quotes. Understand exactly what it is you need and make sure they are quoting for that, nothing more, nothing less.
Can any of the work be done by cherry picker, or mobile scaffolding platform (I bought one of these for repainting the house and removing satellite dish/old aerials: https://www.laddersandscaffoldtowers.co.uk/acatalog/Trade-Master-Professional-Scaffold-Towers.html) or - thinking laterally - by installing a dormer or velux in the roof and accessing through that ?
But yeah, it's painful.
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Good grief, some of those 'DIY' platforms look pretty scary.
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You get the hang of it pretty quick.
Or break your neck, obviously.
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Its insurance costs.
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Scaffolders with insurance?
Hahahahahahahahaha etc.
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I've got a lovely little tower I use for clearing gutters and bits as far better than standing up a ladder hoping it doesn't slip.
My scaffolding was horrendously expensive as it had to hold up the original wooden frame of the building while we put modern foundations under it. On top of that got held up by the planners so it was in place rather longer than anticipated.
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RR are you cynically suggesting that I might make some flippant comment along the lines of great access for casing the joint? As if.
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Cost us a couple of Ks. The real problem is getting them to take it away again.
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that sounds absurd
my parents r doing up multiple barns and a farm house over 3 years, so need scaffolding throughout the time. enough to fit round a farm house scaffolding cost £11k brand new and in good condition keeps resale value (currently c.25% discount only)
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Are you suggesting these scaffolding fellows may have seen FTSE coming a mile off?
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In my limited experience of scaffolding, they will leave it there much longer than you want. Much more work for them to put it into storage rather than just moving it to the next job. One time they left an abusive graffiti after we threatened to sue them to get rid of the fooking thing. Absolute arseholes.
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why would you threaten to sue gypsies? got what you deserved
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Maybe my parents got what they deserved. I was 8 at the time. Still, even I did not appreciate 3 months of unnecessary scaffolding outside my window.
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Also what is your point exactly? Gypsies can do whatever they want?
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surely your project manager deals with this and you just sign off on the final number?
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no my point is good luck enforcing any judgment against them...if you even get that far in one piece
I agreed to pay my scaffolders 10k cash and was a few days late paying as I couldn't withdraw it all in one go and the boss of the business turned up to collect it personally. thankfully I had it ready but he appeared quite ready to escalate matters had I not.
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Was an apartment building so at least 2 or 3 parties between me and the scaffolders…
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It was the house commune or whatever you call it that threatened to sue. Once that happened the scaffolding was gone pretty soon. They did graffiti the building though. Knuts.
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I hope they daubed Tory Cmuts on the wall
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Ego have you got some Romany blood in you?
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Probably a low blood level in the old alcohol stream.
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Hmm?
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Love a good login fück up
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Classic. U legend.
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You ok m7?
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Nah. Third nervous breakdown in 2 years. But I’m working on it. I want to know what happens to Ego Brainiac though.
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What about High Guise?
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High Guise isn’t on this thread. Isn’t he/she one of the people who keeps bigging up Dubai?
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One thing you can say about the ME. No gyppos.
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Well apart from Danial Kinahan and his mob being holed up there
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Who
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Exactly
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It is fairly skilled labour.
But £12k?? Annoying they wont take it down - since round here you seem to be charged by the week - they are taking it off you all which ways.
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Maybe a negotiation note for anyone possibly involved in building contracts. 500 pound storage fee per week for the scaffolding once the work has been completed.
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again, good luck getting money from your typical scaffolder. smart arse lawyerly sophistry will simply make them laugh at you.
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To be fair mine did stop charging the rental at the point that I told them they could take it away. Mutterings about litigation also finally persuaded them to come and take it down.
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Yeah, you are right of course. Hired goons, that's the way to go.
Once hired goons is the answer to most problems, does that mean we live in a failed state?
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thank goodness I live in a bungalow.
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Gypsies will definitely break into a bungalow quite easily. Thank goodness I live in an apartment on the 5th floor. From there I can look and point at all the scumbags like you. Hahahaha!
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That won't stop them sending a huge spurious invoice for redoing the tarmac on your drive.
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