Because it had been filled with gas but never started pumping. I assume because it's not good for the pipeline to not be filled with gas but don't actually know.
I don't understand why the yanks would benefit particularly. Possible it's a false flag I guess and then the Russian's 'discover it was Ukraine' in a week or two and use it as a premise for escalation. We live in interesting times it seems.
"V effective way of stopping Russia getting its 600m Euros a week or whatever it was"
Or, depending on the commercial terms actually agreed, a desperate attempt by Russia to avoid damages of 600m Euros a week or whatever it was, by claiming force majeure ?
1. They had no prospect of gas deliveries in the long run since EU countries are securing other sources / go green. 2. They do not want to supply anyway. 3. It allows them to dodge penalty payments for non-delivery under existing contracts - FM
Russians did it as a warning. “Next time it will be someone else’s pipe. And then the fibre optics cables under the Atlantic.” Possibly as provocation for war and therefore cement Pootin as wardictator for life.
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I dunno but I hope Europe is putting an awful lot of naval strength around North Sea gas fields and pipelines.
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This feels like a big step towards open warfare between Russia and NATO.
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Get warm, complacent, teat sucking Germans to face up to the cold, harsh realities of life?
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You’re a pro-Putin fascist sympathiser Elfffi.
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https://twitter.com/OAlexanderDK/status/1574751364424814598
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They should definitely think about reversing the mothballing of this nuclear power stations in Germany.
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Is there any actual suggestion it has been blown up?
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Yes, see the OP. Heffalump never exaggerates or posts inaccurately.
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Yes - 2 x small seismic shocks recorded in the area around that time.
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V effective way of stopping Russia getting its 600m Euros a week or whatever it was
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Seems a bit cutting your nose off to spite your face?
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Not if you’re Ukraine it’s not
some special ops boys with some limpet mines in the dead of night
proper boys own stuff
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That's very weird. Not clear at all who benefits from that. It's like something out of a bloody bond movie!
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It's not stopping Russia getting anything (this one had never actually gone on stream as I understand it).
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gee I can’t guess who doesn’t want russia having 600m euros a week
at least we can rule out Iranian arms dealers. We can safely say it wasn’t them.
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Pretty sure Ukraine wouldn't want to risk pissing off its allies by doing that
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If it hadn’t gone on steam how come there are massive gas bubbles emanating from the north sea?
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It was already pressurised ready to go onstream
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the USA is the other big gas seller
i imagine they are utterly delighted
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Because it had been filled with gas but never started pumping. I assume because it's not good for the pipeline to not be filled with gas but don't actually know.
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Maybe it was Greenpeace or Greta Tunberg.
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russian bots are flooding twitter with suggestions it was the us
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No way would the Ukrainians be interfering with the flow of gas to the EU FFS.
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Lol @ ‘ready to go onstream’ not being the same as onstream
ok buddy
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I’m not a russian bot but it doesn’t take Sherlock Holmes to figure that the USA won’t be saddened by this
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Guess it's a crap attempt at a false flag
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It's a nice way to send a message that Ukraine is quite capable of also blowing up the one that is making money for the Russians. A subtle signal.
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Or a drunk Russian has crashed his nuclear sub into and the Russians don't want to admit it's happened.
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Ukraine is winning on the ground. The chance of them doing anything to piss off their allies is about 0.0001%
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https://twitter.com/JavierBlas/status/1574780608785653763
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I don't understand why the yanks would benefit particularly. Possible it's a false flag I guess and then the Russian's 'discover it was Ukraine' in a week or two and use it as a premise for escalation. We live in interesting times it seems.
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So are we saying Ukraine pulled a Reichstag?
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How will Germany respond?
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No. That Russia has. Although it's obviously a complete guess!
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For the insurance money?
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The loss adjusters might just need to take another look at that one Mr Putin. Just a formality I'm sure.
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Or, depending on the commercial terms actually agreed, a desperate attempt by Russia to avoid damages of 600m Euros a week or whatever it was, by claiming force majeure ?
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US and British fingerprints all over this
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eeyore - yeah maybe, who knows the truth, the fog of war and all that
but let’s be honest if there are 2 gas sellers in town and one suffers a burst pipe the other one isn’t going to be sad..
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The Russians had an incentive to do it.
1. They had no prospect of gas deliveries in the long run since EU countries are securing other sources / go green. 2. They do not want to supply anyway. 3. It allows them to dodge penalty payments for non-delivery under existing contracts - FM
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Ooh you might be right Barry. That's the kind of edgy thinking that has seen you get where you are today.
*Gives Barry a biscuit*
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I guess I have the edgy thinking of a strongly pro-western MEP. Edgy, me.
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You never hear anything about thunbeeg now do you.
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Russians did it as a warning. “Next time it will be someone else’s pipe. And then the fibre optics cables under the Atlantic.” Possibly as provocation for war and therefore cement Pootin as wardictator for life.
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heh, this thread is absolutely begging 4 a brexitbrexit “cui bono?!??” special
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Technically, is this an attack on Russia or Germany?
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Barry is the Russia bot saying it's definitely the west
So it was Russia then
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Seems an odd thing for Russia to do. Undercover Yanks the obvious suspects, but probably too obvious.
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The Norway- Poland gas pipeline had its official opening yesterday. Russian messaging is rarely subtle.
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It’s both.
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https://twitter.com/EmmaMAshford/status/1575137413340561411
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NATO statement: https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/official_texts_207733.htm
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traces of explosives found: https://www.aklagare.se/nyheter-press/pressmeddelanden/2022/november/bekraftat-sabotage-vid-nord-stream/
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I still think it was America
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Yeah but you think vaccines are full of 5g and that Maidstone was destroyed
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bump
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pray for barry and whatever happened to elfffi? Did he get conscripted? Bakhmut?
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