Peugeot and Citroen, they’re PSA; I get it. Mad merger of different brand values but I get it.
Vauxhall, that’s General Motors isn’t it, basically german but made in liverpool
FIAT, isn’t that part of Mercedes? Or does the Juventus bloke who looks like he sniffs a ton of coke at breakfast time and whose dad used to wear his watch over his cuff still own it?
if you read barnier’s brexit diaries you’ll see that the eu were very concerned about negotiating rules of origin restrictions whereas the uk wasn’t
(or, to be more fair, the negotiators like ollie letwin who were on top of the detail were concerned about it, but politically steve baker and his erg mentalists thought the uk would be able to negotiate a million new trade deals around the world and weren’t particularly concerned with ongoing trade with the eu, so kept banging on about regulatory divergence)
Most of the battery components are mined in 3rd world countries in conditions that are not compatible with western values and standards.
Almost all of the capability and capacity to turn them into batteries is in China.
This is why the 'EV revolution' is not going to go anywhere any time soon. Very much like the cars, since most have a maximum real world range of about 150 miles, if that.
Global supply chains. Obviously bozza and frost knew this at the time of the deal and it’s all the companies’ fault for not completing reorienting their supply chains to buy from non existent suppliers since the brexit deal
Most of the rare earths that go into EVs are mined or processed in China, V worrying. No chance of punitive sanctions v China if they walk into Taiwan.
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battery
hth
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Just need to believe more
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Also, wtf is “Stellantis”?
What has happened to the car industry?
Peugeot and Citroen, they’re PSA; I get it. Mad merger of different brand values but I get it.
Vauxhall, that’s General Motors isn’t it, basically german but made in liverpool
FIAT, isn’t that part of Mercedes? Or does the Juventus bloke who looks like he sniffs a ton of coke at breakfast time and whose dad used to wear his watch over his cuff still own it?
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Something something German cars
something something Prosecco
just wing it old boy, just like tutes
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make batteries in the EU then ffs how hard can it be
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pretty hard
htalsoh
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It would be very hard to ignore the child and slave labour deployed in battery manufacturing if it was done in the EU.
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if you read barnier’s brexit diaries you’ll see that the eu were very concerned about negotiating rules of origin restrictions whereas the uk wasn’t
(or, to be more fair, the negotiators like ollie letwin who were on top of the detail were concerned about it, but politically steve baker and his erg mentalists thought the uk would be able to negotiate a million new trade deals around the world and weren’t particularly concerned with ongoing trade with the eu, so kept banging on about regulatory divergence)
tl;dr we got screwed
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Most of the battery components are mined in 3rd world countries in conditions that are not compatible with western values and standards.
Almost all of the capability and capacity to turn them into batteries is in China.
This is why the 'EV revolution' is not going to go anywhere any time soon. Very much like the cars, since most have a maximum real world range of about 150 miles, if that.
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the turning into batteries bit could easily be done in the EU
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The cost of setting up battery assembly from scratch is high - and would have to be passed on to consumers in the price of their car.
It's just not viable. People can't afford the high prices and the manufacturers won't invest the money as a result.
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Chill has it. The headbangers were so incompetent they got us a bad deal. But who could have seen that coming eh.
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Global supply chains. Obviously bozza and frost knew this at the time of the deal and it’s all the companies’ fault for not completing reorienting their supply chains to buy from non existent suppliers since the brexit deal
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and yet u still support them hanners?
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Who else could you support?
communists or sandal wearing hippies? *shudder*
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Jaguar Land Rover now actually making it happen fgs
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-65698529
More of this please
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u want 2 c more of hundreds of millions of pounds of uk subsidies being channeled in2 foreign owned businesses 2 prop up profits 2 b siphoned abroad?
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Will this actually come to fruition and result in long range batteries at affordable prices?
Toyota have now openly stated they are concentrating more on hydrogen power.
I can see EVs being a short term fashion and a footnote in the history of automotive development.
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Yes, since everyone else is doing it now.
Don’t hate the playaz, hate the game.
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no, other countries doing the protectionism thing r mainly investing in domestically-owned businesses or synthetically ensuring profits r retained
we r doing it the shit way cos we have no choice, cos the bodge/tozza brexit has fooked us over
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Any examples of that? Not saying it isn’t true, but also alive to the realities of modern capitalism.
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don’t u read the news? the us measures r literally plastered all over it
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“literally” in the hanners sense faod
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Most of the rare earths that go into EVs are mined or processed in China, V worrying. No chance of punitive sanctions v China if they walk into Taiwan.
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