getting harder to be sympathetic when Israel's ministries are putting out these plans

The Israeli Ministry of Intelligence is recommending the forcible and permanent transfer of the Gaza Strip’s 2.2 million Palestinian residents to Egypt’s Sinai Peninsula, according to an official document.

The 10-page document, dated Oct. 13, 2023, bears the logo of the Intelligence Ministry — a small governmental body that produces policy research and shares its proposals with intelligence agencies, the army, and other ministries. It assesses three options regarding the future of the Palestinians in the Gaza Strip in the framework of the current war, and recommends a full population transfer as its preferred course of action. The document, whose authenticity was confirmed by the ministry, has been translated into English in full here.

The transfer plan is divided into several stages. In the first stage, action must be taken so that the population of Gaza “evacuates south,” while the air strikes focus on the northern Gaza Strip. In the second stage, a ground incursion into Gaza will begin, leading to the occupation of the entire Strip from north to south, and the “cleansing of the underground bunkers of Hamas fighters.”

Concurrently with the re-occupation of Gaza, Palestinian civilians will be moved into Egyptian territory, and not be allowed to return. “It is important to leave the travel routes to the south open to enable the evacuation of the civilian population toward Rafah,” the document states.

According to an official in the Intelligence Ministry, the ministry’s personnel stand behind these recommendations. The source stressed that the ministry’s research is “not based on military intelligence” and serves only as a basis for discussions within the government.

The document proposes promoting a campaign targeting Palestinian civilians in Gaza that will “motivate them to accept this plan” and lead them to give up their land. “The messages should revolve around the loss of land, making it clear that there is no hope of returning to the territories Israel will soon occupy, whether or not that is true. The image needs to be, ‘Allah made sure you lose this land because of Hamas’ leadership — there is no choice but to move to another place with the assistance of your Muslim brothers,’” the document reads.

 

YES, BECAUSE ALL THE LAND - FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA - BELONGS TO ISRAEL AND ISRAEL SHOULD ACT ACCORDINGLY

From the River to the Sea means different things to different people. Many of the people who I know who have close ties to Palestine say that this is actually nothing more than a protest line now and that they realistically accept that Israel does and will continue to exist.  They chant it more as a reminder that they never gave up rightful ownership to the land and that Israel remains an illegal occupier until there's a peace agreement between both sides. But they take the view that there needs to be a fairer division of the land with both sides then adhering to the new borders and both sides having the absolute right to self determination (with equal rights and protections afforded by the international community).

Yes, we did already know that Hamas are bad people who aspire to eliminate Israel.

Nobody here supports them.

That guy’s got a massive target on his back surely

Such a stupid pointless thread. 

From the river to the sea Palestine will be free

As I posted in a thread last night, “from the river to the sea” is a claim on land which is made by both sides. If you support the use of the phrase by Likud but condemn it by Palestinians, you might need to have another think.

Both sides claim land “from river to the sea”, but the Israeli government is actually engaged in a policy of illegal settlement in the West Bank and has drawn up plans for the mass transfer of civilians from Gaza.

where do the Izmeisters keep getting these smokin’ filthy politicians from?

Tzipi Hotlovely fgs

I mean it’s not really subtle is it? The Israeli government is quite openly using military force against Palestinian civilians, cutting off essential supplies, and engineering a humanitarian crisis. At the same time, they are discussing how the Palestinians can be removed permanently from Gaza, and approving record numbers of settlements in occupied territory in the West Bank. Against a backdrop of saying that they have exclusive right to all this land. Should we pretend that these things are coincidental?

Should we pretend that these things are coincidental?

YES

heh

Heh @ BB

What everyone else said ffs. Both sides have now clearly stated their preference that the other side should be removed from their currently occupied land. The difference is that one of them actually has the capability to do it and is currently doing it. 

There’s an interview with her in today’s Telegraph, Laz. With photos. Looks like she’s discovered pies since the photo above was taken.

Yeah. I’ve got with more than one lady in my time whose coat tended to the boxy, tho. She’s pretty. Ambassador to the U.K., I see - wonder if she gets on tinder?

Also as a technical member of the tribe, I am fully eligible from her perspective… although it’s not marriage I’d be proposing.