Trout

seeing the duck thread reminded me that this board has nature types on it.  So, here’s the question: anyone ever put trout in a pond?  I’ve just dug out our wild pond to about 150m2 and a metre deep in most places.  It is fed by two streams, ground water, and the overflow from a rainwater tank so a reasonable flow.  A tonne of gravel is to go in later this week, and then the duck weed will be skimmed off and everything allowed to settle until the end of the month when the trout man is delivering 30 12” rainbow trout.  Are they all going to die before we get a chance to catch and eat them?  Will they need to be fed or will they just forage? Trout man is optimistic on these questions but he is keen to sell me the fish.  Anyone done this or similar?

Sounds fine in principle but depends on the water that is feeding it (pH and clarity) and the level of insect life that is alive in it. If the latter is disturbed by the gravel and dig out then there may not be enough to sustain them and you may have to feed them pellets

If you want to send me gps details of your pond I can take a view on the weather and terrain.  

 

 

 

And honestly not plan to poach them when they’re delicious and plump after mutters gives you a few months advice.  Muahahaha.

Interesting, thanks.  Gravel is only going around part in order to leave creepy crawlies in the muddy parts.  Water is very clear but I’ve no idea of the ph.  Will look at it.  Primary reason for getting bigger ones is to mitigate risk of avian predators but we’ve never had a heron around so it will be interesting (if costly) to see if the fish brings one in...

Again I have very good data on predatory birds, so feel free to give me map coordinates, I can check if it’ll be an issue.

 

 

 

 

While I look up trout recipes.

Fish will taste muddy due to a couple of factors which include the warmth of the water as well as the number of organics, specifically algae in the water.  

It’s caused by a chemical called Geosmin which is especially prevalent in clay soil (due to absorption) and when algae is in full bloom.

Do not pay any attention to all these silly remedies about eliminating the muddy taste by the way, none of them work. The only thing to do is wait it out until the algae bloom is over and hope that the geosmin has sufficiently decomposed.  An old chestnut about washing or cooking in vinegar genuinely doesn’t work.  I have tried.

Hope that helps. :)

Herons tend to take smaller fish as you mention, but also frogs, newts and, alas, ducklings. Anything the size of a chicken nugget or less.  They do not manage the larger fish but tend to leave them stabbed and fin-damaged. You can't shoot them on a general licence.

You want to worry more about cormorants. These coastal birds have pretty much given up with the hardships of the sea and recognise that easier pickings can be found in inland in private ponds, lakes and fisheries.  Again, no shooting on a general licence. People net trout ponds to deal with this. A group of cormorants will have all your fish in one night.

 

My Dad has a pond, which used to be a swimming pool, with Koi Carp in them.

Whenever I go vist, the same ones I remember as a kid are still there, only much bigger. He had them valued once and you don't want to ask.

He's got a pump system which flows over rocks like a waterfall and a couple of cast iron herons standing over it all to dissuade any real ones.

And I'm not going to give Teclis any GPS co-ordinates.

There's a resident cormorant at the old mill pond near us (filled by a part of the river that runs underground throuvh pourous rock).  It sits on top of the no swimming sign in the middle of the lake with an "I think I'll be the judge of that" look.