Right, here we go again...

This dreadful leaving neverland thing second part kicks off in a mo.  *Shudder*.

Who’s watching in a sort of horrified fascination like me?

If you already take it as read that he fvcked kids, can you just not bother to watch it?

It’s bloody nasty stuff.  I dunno why I’m watching it, but it’s quite interesting to hear the live accounts of how he groomed them and whatnot, he was so fucking evil the way he coached the boys to deny it.

Actually rehearsing in case he got caught.  Sick bastard!

I believe that he did it and I don’t want to know the details. I accidentally read some incredibly graphic details in the paper and I’m not sure I want to know any more. 

No question in my eyes, I completely believe these guys.  Far too much evidence, complexity in details that can’t be coincidental.

What channel is it on? I don’t think I want to watch it right now, but maybe on catchup. I don’t know when would be the ‘right’ time to watch, mind.

Channel 4 - first part was yesterday at 9pm

Not sure there could be a right time to watch this, it’s really tough to watch it actually.

That’s what I was thinking. I’ve got the gist of it, I might just leave it.

I am still team MJ until I'm convinced otherwise.  

It’s really unpleasant for the first 2/3rds or so. The final bit is more about how the guys are doing now, including interviews with their wives and family.  Obviously a terrible toll but I found it a little heartening in a slightly odd way.

I watched the first hour.  Think the fact that one of them produced songs for Britney and choreographed Nsync rather blows away the argument that he's just in it for the money as he must be reasonably well off already.

Unless he's blown the cash he made. Doubt those gigs made him millions tbh 

Having watched it anyone who thinks they are doing this for money is probably a closet paedophile. 

I wonder if Mutters and Cookie will be along to make more excuses for the appalling and systematic abuse of small children again. 


He’s one of the most sought after choreographers in the world.  He is not in it for the money, he has absolutely made millions, he is known as the ‘hitmaker’ Ffs.

Also clearly a very tortured soul who professes to still love Michael despite everything that was done to him.

ML - this is a guy who MJ told, at 16, to go home and urgently dispose of his underwear from the previous night because there may be some blood there as a result of MJ trying to bum him.