On this note: where is Coockie these days? 

Cookie isn't misanthropic.

I mean people for whom every single minute is a constant complaint from other people on the tube to work colleagues to the cashier at the supermarket to other customers in pubs. It's endless and joyless.

That does sound quite a lot like cookie tbf

oh dear.

I was in a meeting with a lawyer from a well known firm and this fella is widely regarded as the big cheese in this particular field. We were jointly interviewing a witness - him acting for the company and me acting for the individual.  This guy had a face that did the full seven dwarfs - Sneery, Sleepy, Arsy, Grumpy, Lazy, Fighty, Khunty. I genuinely wondered whether everyone agrees with him because they thinks he's the bees gonads or is just scared of making him angry and difficult.

THat is a whinging pain in the arse. 

a misanthrope is a person who dislikes humankind. 

Yeah, I know, and the person I described was about as misanthropic as it is possible to be

soz I was talking to Judy. 

But there is a VAST overlap between supreme arrogance and misanthropic types. 

it is pain in the "arse whinging but it is also a deep contempt and dislike for the general public.  I can't bear it.  Some poor lady wheeling a massive pram wasn't really paying attention to my friend and the look of sheer pissed off ness - the passive aggressive mutterings - it's embarrassing and so out of proportion.

the thing that worries me about people who self describe as misanthropes is

don't they know I am an anthrowhatsit?! why are they telling me they hate me it's weird

similarly I have a fair few female friends who say they don't like women and I am like "er??"

that said I shouted at a smug German pavement cyclist last week and really embarrassed the person I was with so I am no one to talk

she was being a total shlong tho

women who dislike other women are usually generalising from their own bad characters.  If you can't get on with 50 per cent of the human race, it says more about you, luv - is what I want to say

v true! it makes me feel sad for all the nice women they have met and been horrible to

People my misanthropic friend finds abominable:

People who like Wimbledon (me)

people who like a good Hollywood blockbuster (me)

people who like PE (me, apart from the bad ones (e.g. the one on Gloucester Road)

people who like Ascot and other Season things (me)

People who don't travel lightly (me)

People who like driving (me)

People who vote conservative (me)

I have felt like this friend on mine is being very snidely contemptuous about me in a Judo is so dumb she doesn't know that I am having sly digs.

"Oh the King's Road is so ghastly and depressing."

Err, no it's not and you live in fooking Hammersmith.

it is so hard when someone does this because you don't know whether to call them out on it or if that will generate a scene and maybe you should just let it go because is it worth the aggro

ps took me a while to work out that PE is Pizza Express (right?!)

"People who like Wimbledon"

It's fine on the telly, but I'm only visiting again if I have tickets. Never queueing up ever again.

"people who like a good Hollywood blockbuster"

Surely that's everyone? Although in my case, only if it was made before c.1941"

"people who like PE"

Phys Ed? Do you mean the gym? Ghastly. Or are you referring to private equity?

"people who like Ascot and other Season things"

Again - who wouldn't?!"

"People who don't travel lightly"

My long legs prevent from enjoying air travel, unless it's business class which is jolly expensive. I'm fine on boats, as long the sea is calm. Trains etc, not a problem.

"People who like driving"

In the country, I can see some pleasure in this (although it does prevent me drinking beer, which is one of the main reasons I'd want to be in the country). In towns: ugh.

"People who vote conservative"

I think it's safe to say I'll never vote Conservative again. It's looking more and more unlikely I'll ever vote Labour either tbf unless they sort themselves out.

PE = Pizza Express.  Correct.

Yes, my very wise BFF told me not to make a scene but just to have a bit of a friendship break for a while.

it's all very clever clever sneering rants.

a good policy I think

it is a shame because she will probably go through life and never know but you are not her keeper

Is this person a bit chavvy? She sounds it.

chavs don't say ghastly

ghastly is a ghastly word but not in that direction

ps did u know chav is an Angloromani word?

but then what I most ashamed of is that I had to endure the fifth rant in a row about the size of my baggage, which literally had no material effect on my friend), so that made me a little bit obnoxious too.

Misanthropes usually hate everyone because they think they're better than other people, so arrogance goes hand in hand with it. 

JC's friend doesn't sound chavvy she sounds like a massive snob 

I wish it were easier to say to a friend "you are being a total twot btw" and then have them go "hm yes I suppose so" or maybe even "fook you! IyamwhatIyam!" and then for everything to be ok

it's ridic to have to do these dances around reality

The only thing worse than a misanthrope is someone who actively uses the word misanthrope rather than calling such people what they are - ie aunts

I actually think that this friend of mine has some serious issues going on, in terms of being a borderline alcoholic and being a not massively happy relationship and not particularly liking her job.

Perhaps the ranting monologues are a symptom.

She can be really amusing but it's turned from being funny to being a bit ugly.

but losing a friendship is sad, but then I was thinking that my life goals are totally different from hers. She absolutely detests all children, and I would like them (if possible) etc and I actually don't want to sit in pubs now listening to monologues whilst downing drink after drink.

I think that it's a symptom that she never takes off her sunglasses, even inside.

she sounds like a character in a french comedy, jc!

Sounds like her boyfriend would like out.  You should nab him

Clergs, yes I did know that. I like to think that I have some Traveller blood in me actually.

*proffers heather*

I did not know that.

I think the word "chav" only came into being in the early noughts?

When I was growing up, in the North-West, the approximate equivalent word was "townie"

We used the word "townie" at school to refer to any local person. Not quite the same.

"Ned" is the Scotch equivalent, which I like.

If a large part of me roots for Thanos in the Avengers movies, does that make me a misanthrope?

chav is longstanding in edinburgh

I’ve recently started just telling people when they are getting on my tits. 

Life is too short to put up with other people’s issues. 

well that's the thing Scylla - life experience has taught me that I simply don't put up with not being spoken to nicely anymore.  No shouting or arguments, etc.  I just don't accept it.

Women who act like this are generally jealous and are just posturing

One assured me she was never going to send her son to public school and 'turn him into a white public schoolboy '

Yet when the husband got a legacy it is 'Jake is doing very well at Oundle I'm happy to say'

The urge to slap her was overpowering 

The urge to slap her was overpowering 

would that have been the first time u touched a woman tarq m7?

"turn him into a white public schoolboy"

I assume he was black then? Otherwise, the skin colour comment would be a bit random.

In this case I would have simply told her that the size of my luggage was not her problem or concern and that her rants were particularly tedious and I didn’t enjoy her company while she was acting like this. 

I would then ask if there was anything specific I could help her with to deal with whatever she was going through that was causing her to behave in this way. 

Assuming a non positive response to this... excuse myself, ignore,  delete, block, remove from life. 

Actually on reflection I think she said 'English ' Public Schoolboy.  She is Mediterranean but her husband speaks like Prince Charles.  It may have been a dig at him 

I did land a bed on a girlfriend's head once. But that was when she tried to hit me with it and lost her grip

 The female flatmate quit that evening saying she was fed up with the drunken brawls 

:¬O

God I’m depressed now.  Even my misanthropic friends are not nearly as awful as the ones on RoF.  

They mostly run to boring silences over a pint of mild.   Or a silent afternoon fishing in the rain from a small and leaky boat. 

This is why I envy women.  Their emotional lives are so much more colorful and eventful.