heh 

The thought of those gammons exploding with indignation is very highly lollsome.  If you wanted the deal should have voted for it on the first two occasions - arseholes.

What is slightly odd is that he has also instructed the clerks to block any attempt by the government to get round this ruling by tabling a “notwithstanding” motion but was happy for one to be included in the motion for today's indicative votes.

isn’t that just the substance point Goose?

not that notwithstanding motions cannot be brought, but rather that it does not change the substance

Heh!

Look at para 1(c) of the Motion for today:

https://twitter.com/hilarybennmp/status/1110565759674212352 

Not sure what you mean by the substance point but that para says even if the house has already made a decision on something it can still decide on it again, notwithstanding the normal rules of the House, so even if substance hasn't changed.

oh I see

i read that as meaning that in the indicative votes list they can still indicate in favour of May’s deal

I can’t imagine Bercow would block a stand alone motion on whether to permit MV3 (as opposed to one wrapped up in the same motion as MV3)

might be wrong

Don't think there is the option to indicate in favour of May's deal today. Bercow seems pretty clear that he has asked the clerks office to reject any standalone notwithstanding motion on MV3. 

was that before or after Benn’s motion

i can only imagine the difference is in it being standalone or not tbh

I.e. it being voted on alone means it has not changed substantially

whereas in benn’s motion it is wrapped up in a very different motion (or alternatively does not apply to May’s deal)

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I can’t imagine Bercow would block a stand alone motion on whether to permit MV3 (as opposed to one wrapped up in the same motion as MV3)

might be wrong

I was wrong - I see Bercow has clearly specified that this would be prohibited too

so MV3 is impossible

Must be terrible for those in the House who want another vote to see if people have changed their minds.

I feel for them.

I think he’s just doing this to see the expression on Andrea Loathsom’s face.

Top trolling Bercow. That’ll teach them to leak that they didn’t want to give you the traditional bump to the Lords when you stood down.

Go Bercow, great work. Loathsom seems to think that always carrying papers makes her look authoritative. All it proves is she has not mastered her brief. As none of these incompetents have any idea what they’re talking about. 

Heh - we called our quiz team "The Bercow Dwarf Revolution" last night.   Not far wrong.

Fark - was that last night?

How did you do?

When is the next outing?

Does anyone know whether a change in circumstance warrants voting on the same thing again?  The change being the terms the EU has imposed on accepting the deal or not by this Friday.

Yes, was last night.  next one probably in two weeks' time.  Interested?

We came second, by the way (as all true gentlemen do).

Currently clear, so I’ll pencil it in and confirm nearer the time.

This was a good effort in trolling but I'm surprised the indicative votes paper didn't end up being Revoke Article 50 - 8 times.