I honesty think the longer the queue the more people will want to be part of it, people feel it is doing their bit for the queen (although it is nothing of the sort of course) you might be doing your bit for the establishment I suppose who are keen to beam pictures of it around the world (none of whom of course would dream of queuing for 8 hours plus for this or anything else).
Guy - obvs I never knew her personally so this was a way to express my gratitude and respect. Obvs she wouldn't know about me now (nor would she care), but it makes me feel good I suppose?
Oh that's okay then - a particular concern for that delicate and sensitive subset. Otherwise people might mistakenly think you weren't brave enough to sneer at anyone who could answer back.
"I honesty think the longer the queue the more people will want to be part of it, people feel it is doing their bit for the queen (although it is nothing of the sort of course) you might be doing your bit for the establishment I suppose who are keen to beam pictures of it around the world (none of whom of course would dream of queuing for 8 hours plus for this or anything else)."
yeah thats because the media have been banging on about THE QUEUE for days now. Switch on BBC its basically all they are talking about, exactly as I predicted.
Just caught the changing of the guard on tv. The guys who’ve been stood there look knackered. Interesting to see PCs with real helmets, not something you see much these days. And then a young woman curtseying, quickly and neatly. Little things. 11 hours now though. No thanks.
I honesty think the longer the queue the more people will want to be part of it
So yes ticketing would have been pointless and people would have come anyway.
Apparently the guards are doing 20 minute stints. I was worried they'd be expected to stand there for an hour with just their thoughts to pass the time.
At the time, it was 2.2 miles and took 7 hours to get to the front. TBH, while I personally won't be attending, it will be something that you can mention for the rest of your life.
The emotion and atmosphere was apparently palpable.
sails on your thinking then when they say, at around sunday lunchtime probably, that nobody past a certain point will get in people will still arrive and queue anyway with no reduction of numbers arriving and queuing despite being told they wont get in? Lets see if you are right.
People were walking towards Southwark Park this morning to join the end of the queue.
I can't imagine how some of them would be able to bear standing in line for 10+ hours but moving at just such a pace that makes it impossible to sit down properly and rest.
according to sails people will join it anyway or congregate in unmanageable numbers and wont go away if told so not quite sure what will happen if he is correct.
"The emotion and atmosphere was apparently palpable."
Yes, once you are in the Hall; but I only got to spend <7 mins there; once you pass security, you go straight to the Hall queuing, it moves pretty quickly. When it's your turn, you stand there for a few seconds, bows, and goes.
I dont criticise those who choose to queue, only those who take their moment in the camera to act like they had lost their own mother, which I find distasteful and ridiculous.
many many people have said timed tickets was the obvious way to go - the only reason for not doing so was they WANTED miles of queues. That is obvious.
There will certainly be people lurking round the back of the queue trying to get in over the weekend who will also stay for form the crowds for the funeral. Travel down on Sunday and chance the queue then camp out to get a good sport for the funeral itself.
How will you mention it for the rest of your life and why would you? Genuinely can't get head around that. The disdain the royal family have for us is palpable ffs
If it becomes really key that you attended at some point in the future I will just lie and say I did too
When I looked at myself on the live stream playback, I could only see myself in a wide shot (with hundreds others). The camera didn't take any bit of my approaching, standing, bowing, and leaving.
Sometimes the camera takes a close-up on a few persons, sometimes it cuts to a close-up of the guards, sometimes the military officers supervising, sometimes a wide shot, sometimes the Queen.
No guarantee that anyone could get a 'close up' per se.
I am not frustrated lawyer, as I have said I have no problem with people queuing up. I do have a problem with those displaying histrionics for the cameras. Two different things. Further I believe the QUEUE has been manipulated to feed the media. It was entirely unnecessary
I'm sure it's a very emotional experience and have no issue with people welling up a bit. Very different to those who were out in public wailing for Diana.
As I have already said Royston, yes this seems obvious. Presumably at the end of 6 hours there will be six hour gap between the end of hte first queue and the start of the second which seems bonkers.
the other odd thing is every now and then groups of well dressed people in suits etc come in who have plainly not been stanidng on a pavement for 8 hours, presume only the hoi polloi actually queue and there is a VIP entrance.
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is it an open casket?
i'd feel pretty ripped off if I queued for 8 hours and didn't get to see the body.
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did you take loads of beer in a cool box? we’re you smashed by the time you got in?
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I have as usual avoided all crowds! Sentiment there however.
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pancakes - nope, go on BBC livestream, it is exactly what you see therein
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Sir Woke - nope
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Wow
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Well worth it I would say
A part of history reaching back to George V1 and VE Day
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Good for you Stanley. I’m sure the memory will stay with you forever.
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Stanley, please tell me this wasn't because of what i said about it being a good place to "hit on chicks" ?!
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The queue is now into Bermondsey.
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I honesty think the longer the queue the more people will want to be part of it, people feel it is doing their bit for the queen (although it is nothing of the sort of course) you might be doing your bit for the establishment I suppose who are keen to beam pictures of it around the world (none of whom of course would dream of queuing for 8 hours plus for this or anything else).
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Good timing. The queue is now double the length it was this time yesterday.
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And still guy feels the need to comment disparagingly
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eeyore - 100% it was.
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Guy - obvs I never knew her personally so this was a way to express my gratitude and respect. Obvs she wouldn't know about me now (nor would she care), but it makes me feel good I suppose?
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Gimp
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Fair enough Stanley, I dont really mean to criticise individuals, if its worth it for you, fine I guess.
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Gratitude and respect for what? Taking all our money and spaffing it on racehorses and buying off Randy Andy's pedophile antics?
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People queued for over 15 hours to view Eva Peron’s body
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"I don't really mean to criticise individuals"
"Are they putting it on for the cameras or actually bonkers?"
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Yeah but Eva's body was actually on view. I might consider queuing to see a dead body.
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cockpit, I took guy's post to mean that none of the Establishment would dream of queueing for 8 hours for anything
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*queuing
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*queueing?
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Are they putting it on for the cameras or actually bonkers?"
1, I meant individuals on rof
2. I am assuming Stanley was not looking in aguish when he filed past, which was what the comment above was aimed at, not simply everybody queueing.
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"People queued for over 15 hours to view Eva Peron’s body"
I believe there were 8 body doubles ferried around the country
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Maybe when she was alive.
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Heh
You can still queue to view Lenin’s body to this day.
Just back from going to see the floral tributes in Green Park. Plenty of people but no queues and empty tubes.
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"I meant individuals on rof"
Oh that's okay then - a particular concern for that delicate and sensitive subset. Otherwise people might mistakenly think you weren't brave enough to sneer at anyone who could answer back.
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Heh
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Why didn’t all these folks who are queuing to express their deep admiration for HMTQ do it during her life, when she would actually know about it?
I cannot recall seeing eg. any flowers or notes left at the gates of Buck House for her in the last few years.
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guy is having an absolute meltdown about some people wanting to see a coffin
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"I honesty think the longer the queue the more people will want to be part of it, people feel it is doing their bit for the queen (although it is nothing of the sort of course) you might be doing your bit for the establishment I suppose who are keen to beam pictures of it around the world (none of whom of course would dream of queuing for 8 hours plus for this or anything else)."
Does not equal
"absolute meltdown"
HTH
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mate you’ve been banging on about THE QUEUE for days now
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yeah thats because the media have been banging on about THE QUEUE for days now. Switch on BBC its basically all they are talking about, exactly as I predicted.
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Guy furious he still only has terrestrial tv and can’t get iPlayer or anything else to play…
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Marshall Hall - I thought the Platinum Jubilee celebration was a give-away.
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Touché. Fair point Stan.
I’m as loyal as the next bloke, but I don’t really get the need to genuflect so vigorously in public.
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Told my mum I wouldn't q five minutes to see her...her reply quite right I'm dead
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Just caught the changing of the guard on tv. The guys who’ve been stood there look knackered. Interesting to see PCs with real helmets, not something you see much these days. And then a young woman curtseying, quickly and neatly. Little things. 11 hours now though. No thanks.
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I honesty think the longer the queue the more people will want to be part of it
So yes ticketing would have been pointless and people would have come anyway.
Apparently the guards are doing 20 minute stints. I was worried they'd be expected to stand there for an hour with just their thoughts to pass the time.
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Queues are 14 hours now, fair play to those doing it. Anyone who hasn't attended, still plan on going?
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I suspect queues will build from here as people realise they will need to be in it by early tomorrow morning to guarantee access.
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it'll only get longer as approaching the weekend.
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A couple of my family members went.
At the time, it was 2.2 miles and took 7 hours to get to the front. TBH, while I personally won't be attending, it will be something that you can mention for the rest of your life.
The emotion and atmosphere was apparently palpable.
I say, good on you if you go.
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sails on your thinking then when they say, at around sunday lunchtime probably, that nobody past a certain point will get in people will still arrive and queue anyway with no reduction of numbers arriving and queuing despite being told they wont get in? Lets see if you are right.
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I'm not going to go but it's a bit odd to criticise people who do
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The queue has been paused for 6 hours as it is "full" .
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People were walking towards Southwark Park this morning to join the end of the queue.
I can't imagine how some of them would be able to bear standing in line for 10+ hours but moving at just such a pace that makes it impossible to sit down properly and rest.
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according to sails people will join it anyway or congregate in unmanageable numbers and wont go away if told so not quite sure what will happen if he is correct.
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can you "pause a queue" wont people just queue to join the queue?
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if only they’d given out timed tickets eh guy
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"The emotion and atmosphere was apparently palpable."
Yes, once you are in the Hall; but I only got to spend <7 mins there; once you pass security, you go straight to the Hall queuing, it moves pretty quickly. When it's your turn, you stand there for a few seconds, bows, and goes.
It's not a lot of time to take in the atmosphere.
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I dont criticise those who choose to queue, only those who take their moment in the camera to act like they had lost their own mother, which I find distasteful and ridiculous.
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many many people have said timed tickets was the obvious way to go - the only reason for not doing so was they WANTED miles of queues. That is obvious.
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it feeds the media for a couple of days before the funeral when there is nothing else really happening but we are still IN MOURNING
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Guy, why are you getting so frustrated at people showing their respect? Calm down and move on.
People have different priorities in life. That is fine.
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There will certainly be people lurking round the back of the queue trying to get in over the weekend who will also stay for form the crowds for the funeral. Travel down on Sunday and chance the queue then camp out to get a good sport for the funeral itself.
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How will you mention it for the rest of your life and why would you? Genuinely can't get head around that. The disdain the royal family have for us is palpable ffs
If it becomes really key that you attended at some point in the future I will just lie and say I did too
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Guy - one has no control over the camera.
When I looked at myself on the live stream playback, I could only see myself in a wide shot (with hundreds others). The camera didn't take any bit of my approaching, standing, bowing, and leaving.
Sometimes the camera takes a close-up on a few persons, sometimes it cuts to a close-up of the guards, sometimes the military officers supervising, sometimes a wide shot, sometimes the Queen.
No guarantee that anyone could get a 'close up' per se.
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I am not frustrated lawyer, as I have said I have no problem with people queuing up. I do have a problem with those displaying histrionics for the cameras. Two different things. Further I believe the QUEUE has been manipulated to feed the media. It was entirely unnecessary
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I'm sure it's a very emotional experience and have no issue with people welling up a bit. Very different to those who were out in public wailing for Diana.
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But Guy, again, there is no guarantee one would make it into the cameras (assuming you meant the national TV/BBC/ITV cameras).
I didn't make it (other than in a wide-shot queuing up in the Hall).
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guy has QUEUE derangement syndrome
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Entry to the queue is currently closed so I presume there will be a second queue forming to join the first queue now.
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As I have already said Royston, yes this seems obvious. Presumably at the end of 6 hours there will be six hour gap between the end of hte first queue and the start of the second which seems bonkers.
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We should put the funeral back a week so everyone can see the coffin.
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the other odd thing is every now and then groups of well dressed people in suits etc come in who have plainly not been stanidng on a pavement for 8 hours, presume only the hoi polloi actually queue and there is a VIP entrance.
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MP's, Lords, Civil Servants and committee members of Mermaids have been allocated VIP access.
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Guy- yup, those in nice suits/dresses definitely weren't in the mass queue.
I believe they are related to the Civil Service (e.g. also policemen, firemen, etc.)
I saw a Marshal manning the queue at 5am, and when I entered the hall at 8am, she was there in a well dress queuing behind me.
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I thought the MPs and Lords filed past first?
But yes, of course the establishment itself will not queue, only the peasants.
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