None of them willl die of covid tho clergs. Or at least, that will be the official reporting. Perhaps flu will make a roaring comeback? ;)

Once people get vaccinated they are not going to accept lockdown or restrictions for long, that seems pretty clear.

I'm not sure what they can do with everything closed. Maybe they might meet their children and friends in private homes and I think that is fair enough. 

Remember if they die

They died with vaccine, not of it

heh

crypto - social contact in homes is the big thing

if you could have friends over for dinner legally then this wouldn't be nearly so oppressive

so they can do that

and travel to see people

Speak for yourself by my mum 79 and just been vaccinated and good for another decade.  Even the old man looks like he'll do another few years despite the cancer and heart problems.  There comes a point where old age means these things advance so slowly they aren't really a problem.

saillaw

that's not really how it works

I certainly hope they don't tbh

I agree

but then I think it was wrong of them to do so thus far

I agree with Guy. The more people think they are immune the less they think they will be protected by lockdown.

We will get into mid February and 15% of the population will have had the vaccine and a non-overlapping 15% will either have had Covid or strongly believe they’ve had it (We know that some first-wavers won’t have immunity now but many will think / hope they do). Add to that probably another non-overlapping 30% of young people and others who just aren’t that bothered by the risk, and you’ve got a smaller and small minority of Karens, shielders, and the comfortable furloughed who will be in favour of lockdown. Day by day the pressure will be on to lift lockdown. 

hope you're right

80 is the new 50

Try to keep up

There is going to be a huge backlash against SAGE if they try to keep restrictions up once over 50s vaccinated.    It is not going to be possible even if the government wanted it.  Yes they can keep pubs shut I suppose but there will gatherings on the streets, and I will be in their number.

Actually a person in their 80's can expect to live another 4-9 years if male, 5-10 if female (depending on their starting age)

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare… 

And what Guy said, despite Clergs doomongering.   

The average life expectancy of a 79 year old woman is 11 years (according to the ONS) so, on the basis of factual evidence, that is how it works.

Guy - the over 50s unlikely to be vaccinated before July

yes cockpit all women of 79 will live another 11 years and none will die this year having lived a shitty awful couple of years for absolutely no reason

well done you genius, once again

DId you miss the use of the word “average” Clergs?  On a pure statistical measure that means approximately 50% of 79 year old women in the UK will live to the age of 90 or beyond.

Let me know if you need any more help understanding and I’ll happily assist.

Or to put it another way, statistically, Sails is more likely to be correct and Clergs is more likely to be wrong.

It is the way it works.  As your metabolism and bodily systems slow down so does the rate at which the cancer cells reproduce and spread.  My great aunt never had treatment for her cancer because the medics were right that general old age would carry her off before her cancer ever got big enough and spread far enough to become an issue.

Pound cap. Great new name

I agree with Guy. The more people think they are immune the less they think they will be protected by lockdown.
 

It’s pretty clear from the lead story in The Times that SAGE agrees and is concerned about risk/their place in the sun.*

*delete to taste.

• If your heart rate goes to 160 a second and your feet go blue after taking the jab you died with vaccine not of it
• More than 90pc of those who died after the vaccine had irregular heartbeat and blue foot syndrome before 
• Take your jab and shut up