why are dog owners shocked when people are angry at their dog jumping on them?

what happens in their dumb canineophile brains to make them think "that person should just let it keep happening how dare they kick it away!"?

I do hate all dogs I don't think I ever denied that

I would support a total ban on dogs as domestic pets

but I accept that my hatred of them should be balanced against others' love of them

right up to the point where the dogs are making bodily contact with me

and then it's boot time

I mean they STINK what is wrong with people?

pal of mine has a dog that is constantly eating wrong things (because they are crap animals that can die from a malteser this is unsurprising)

last week it ate chocolate and vomited profusely

pal "felt bad making him go through the trauma of a bath"

so didn't bath it

THEN LET IT SLEEP IN HER BED WHAT WHAT WHAT

you are entitled to love them but if your dog jumps repeatedly on me I hope you agree I am entitled to kick it away and it is not shocking that I have done so

Owning a pet dog is probably the most singularly most environmentally selfish thing you can do - but because celebs like dogs there’s no pressure sprite the contribution to carbon

and obviously the dog shit 

There is an excellent podcast on the environmental effects of domestic dog poo and “biodegradable” poo bags. Environmental disaster whether picked up and bagged or left to leach into watercourse

Generally speaking Clergs, the owners of these horrendous beasts are genuinely stupid. They have extremely limited intelligence and absolutely no common sense.

The pictures those cretins put up of those ‘lovely’ XL killing machines  next to their young children and babies genuinely make my blood run cold.

The chocolate thing is largely nonsense.  Saildog only has occasional digestive problems because someone let her eat something caustic on a building site as a puppy that did a load of damage.

Don’t smell if you just have them groomed occasionally.  SD will be fragrant by lunchtime tomorrow.

Definitely would never own a dog in town because of the poo scooping hassle.  Why do people walk around with the bags hanging from one hand despite having walked past several bins?

‘I would like to drum every dog out of the UK.  If the dog touches you the owner should pay your dry cleaning bill plus £1000 in damages in my view‘

this must be a parody?

The thing these folk don’t get is that dogs are animals and not humans.

Even the best breeds simply do not think or behave in the way that we do, despite many hundreds of years of conditioning. 

And even then, how many cases are there of humans losing their temper and striking at at children, partners etc,? Why are we surprised when dogs do the same?

Think then of a breed that has been specifically bred for its aggressive traits, coupled with monstrous strength.

Anyone who owns one should be imprisoned and then prevented from having any care of children.
 

 

Either they’re dumb animals and can’t be trusted or they’re sentient and have responsibility for their actions. Either way this is a simple problem to resolve. 

This will be fudged like the 91 act intro was. Lobbied at on all sides. But with of course 2023 whataboutery to lace the brew. No responsible owner has any objection to what should happen. And if thick and aggressive people don’t like it well, give back your house and benefits so they can be given to others more deserving. 

Dogs should be trained not to jump up on people but also young dogs have to be socialised and trained and occasionally that might mean somebody gets jumped up on a bit because accidents happen. If you don't like it then pushing them down is fine in my view. Kicking them hard is not! 

DD, if you have a young dog that jumps up at people then it needs to be on a lead in public -so "accidents" do not happen. surely we can all agree with that?

Guy - realistically there is a point in their training where they need to be off the lead but aren’t 100% about not jumping up yet. That shouldn’t be happening on the street obviously (as they should be on a lead) but I don’t think it is unacceptable in an open park or in the countryside. Most people don’t have easy access to enclosed dog parks to get to the stage where their dog will 100% reliably not jump up (which for some breeds can be quite a long road…) 

Roads, illness, a large proportion of males on the BBC payroll in the 1960s/70s, a fanatical devotion to the Pope, Russell Brand and then dogs.

Any more for any more biggest dangers to kids?

On a daily basis the biggest threat to the kids safety (after crossing the roads which I help with) is the dogs they pass on the walk to school or who come bounding at them in the parks - I do my best, but dogs are animals and unpredictable and off the lead and poorly managed. It’s not ok.

DD maybe in the middle of the countryside with few people about but I disagree it is ok to leave them off the lead in a park if there is a chance they will jump up at anyone.   They have to be kept on long leads until there is a certainty that will not happen.

 

I do my best, but dogs are animals and unpredictable and off the lead and poorly managed. It’s not ok.

WELL PERHAPS IF YOUR BEST IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH THEN YOU AND YOUR BRATS SHOULD STAY AT HOME AND STOP TRYING TO RUIN MY DOG’S FUN!!

THE SELFISH SELF-CENTRED ATTITUDE THAT MY DOG SHOULD BE ON A LEAD UNTIL HE STOPS JUMPING ON YOUR CHILDREN REALLY IS INDICATIVE OF EVERYTHING THAT IS WRONG WITH MODERN SOCIETY!!

Mine is never off the lead unless we’re in the countryside or one of the dog friendly beaches on the east coast.

Mainly because it’s the right thing to do, but also because she is endlessly barked and growled at by small dogs who weren’t socialised properly through lockdown or because the owners thought “it’s only small, what’s the point”. 
 

I am occasionally tempted to let her off with an order to bite the fûcking thing in half. But I wouldn’t and frankly nor would she.

sorry what? there is no "need" to have them off a lead in public ever. And kicking them hard if they jump on you (particularly if it is repeated while the owner says "oh sorry sorry" but does nothing) is fine! 

dog owners need to get telt 

There's never any certainty a dog won't jump up.  SD doesn't do it with any guests or visitors or delivery men but does with the gardener and plumber and she knows they won't stop her and will cuddle her if she does it.  She's a bugger for being bright and knowing what she can get away with with different people and we have words over the weekend as while I've been on holiday parents have obviously not been keeping her under control whilst out walking.

What Roger said. The ‘social contract’ on dogs is pretty clear in the UK and both dog owners and those who dislike dogs have to make some compromises. That doesn’t mean dog owners have to make 100% sure there is no risk at all anyone else is even mildly inconvenienced by their dog any more than it means it is fine to have an XL Bully running round off the lead next to a toddlers play park. 

I'm very much team dog, however I also get annoyed when people's dogs jump up, or actually approach other people. Train your fkin dogs, only let them off the lead once they're well behaved. 

My dog will snap sometimes at young dogs that get in her face. If that doesn't work I'm happy to boot them. You shouldn't allow a dog to just approach everyone. 

Don’t let them off the lead. Keep them on the lead in public places 

the only covid rule I liked is that for a few blissful weeks dogs had to be on leads in our local woodland so instead of running up to my kids and snatching their food the fvcking things were or were at least supposed to be on leads.

id love it if dogs were banned from public spaces 

if I had a child and a dog jumped on the child I would stamp on the dog until its ribs broke and it suffocated

unless it was a bully obviously in which case it would just eat me whole

Or jumping over their Diarrhea stains on the pavement. Constant turd alert on every single pavement is it under a leaf, are we in a skid, oh no it’s a big lumpy bit and there’s another dog shitting in front of us and some massive hound in front 

oh but u gotta walk the kids to school ob good for them and the environment 

take the kids to the park 

we’re running out of actual safe places for kids 

yes why are we expected to pretend faeces isn't disgusting

how do dog owners feel about the streaks of diarrhea of other dogs? on your trainers? "oo lovely how cute man's best friend!"

donny - seriously if I started kicking you in the legs and spitting on you you'd probably call the police yes?

why is it fine if your filthy cat-shit-munching machine does the same?

still remember being in Holyrood park when a dog came over and pissed on my friend's kid's pram and the owner was just like durrrrrrr standing there

these are the same people who thought it was fine to shit in watercourses back in the day, I imagine

"what's wrong with a bit of defecation!"

You take it to classes or arrange with a friend Donny. You don't expect strangers to train it for you in a park.

Not really my job to train your dog, unless you pay me. 

 

As an owner of a healthy 44kg dog that I walk off lead every day in public, I like nothing better than seeing him at full sprint, bounding 50-100m away.

Unless you're a rabbit or a squirrel, you're as safe as houses.  And he can't catch the rabbits/squirrels anyway.

Unfortunately, people are acquiescent about how hard training a dog is these days, which means lots of poorly trained dogs.

If you did, then yes I might call the police. If someone's baby was sick on me on a plane or their toddler ruined my nice new jacket on the tube with some disgusting half eaten organic mulch they were eating (both of which have happened to me) I would not, because I accept the need for compromises in public spaces. I even take it with reasonably good grace when my neighbour's cat sh1ts in my garden or at least I don't go beyond a bit of hosing the fvcking thing when I see it. 

Obviously in each case reasonable steps should be taken to prevent this from happening (which in the case of the sh1tting cat they have NOT faod) but accidents happen and allowances for others have to be made. 

I absolutely agree that a lot of dog owners are twots and in general dogs should be sufficiently under control when out and about to make it unlikely anyone will get jumped up on. I am just saying 100% avoidance of this is not realistic consistent with dogs being able to be kept in the way they are currently kept in the UK. 

SO SELFISH

WAA WAA WAA YOUR DOG IS JUMPING ON MY CHILD WAA WAA WAA MY CHILD JUST STEPPED IN YOUR DOG’S FAECES WAA WAA WAA EVERYONE IN THE PARK IS FRIGHTENED OF YOUR FIGHTING DOG WHY CAN’T YOU KEEP IT UNDER CONTROL WAA WAA WAA

IT IS MY DOG WHY ON EARTH DO YOU THINK YOUR CHILD OUGHT TO TAKE PRIORITY PERHAPS YOU OUGHT TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY!!

avoidance is realistic 

someone I know has a dog asbo (the dog is a dick) and it only ever (ever) goes out on a lead now

so, do that or keep it in the garden (or in the nowhere)

Where is all this poo as I haven't had to leap round dog poo on a pavement in quite genuinely years?  I do on a regular basis though have to avoid half eaten fast food, human vomit, human piss and the contents of bin bags ripped open by foxes.  If your council insists on you leaving rubbish in bags on pavements please put it out the morning of collection or ensure it's well enough bagged to stop the foxes spreading it down the pavement and if they do clear it  up.

dog owner for 12 years in that time probably average 2 walks per day, genuinely can count on hands how many times a dog has jumped up at me. sounds like hyperbole to me

a baby being sick on you is not the same as a dog repeatedly leaping on you

OH HERE WE GO, WE’RE SUPPOSED TO TREAT THE BABY DIFFERENTLY JUST BECAUSE THERE ARE NO RECORDED CASES OF PEOPLE BEING MAULED TO DEATH OR HAVING LIFE CHANGING INJURIES INFLICTED BY BABIES… YET!!

I used to walk home from my kids school in the morning on a slightly longer but more scenic route where pavements had wider grass verges. It was that time of day when dog owners were taking their mutts out for their morning dump and I found I couldn’t deal with the stink and having to see a turd-dropping dog out of the corner of my eye every 20 metres

And snowfox - yes of course you do. But you still won't know how that dog will react outside of the controlled conditions of a class until they are actually off the lead and in a public place. Even an older reasonably well trained dog will still sometimes jump up at a stranger. Particularly if they are one of the more excitable breeds. It might be a new (or even particularly familiar) smell, or something the dog reads (perhaps incorrectly) as encouragement or something else they aren't used to. The previous Hound of the Donnovilles would sometimes, even in his old age, run up to a lady wearing high heels but would never run up to anyone else. God knows why, although Mrs Donny would accuse me of having trained him to do this as he was very cute and so usually his approach was welcomed. 

Exactly. Have the dog shit in your own backyard, not on the school run where 400 kids walk over your dog turd and spread it all around.

also quips how selfish are you with your need to have your 44kg dog bounding around off the lead. 

The whole off the lead thing is bonkers just enabling weird ‘one man and his dog’ cos play at the expense of the rest of humanity.

oh the power I wield with my mind to have the dog walk at heel 

oh no 

it’s legged it after the sandwich again 

how could you have chocolate or raisins my dog is allergic 

Get the fvcking dog off the beach get it on the lead and get it the fvck away from my kids you massive fvck knuckle 

To be fair that is another reason  I simply can't understand why anyone would want a large dog. It's bad enough picking up after our (small end of midsize) dog.  Picking up the massive steaming sh1ts that something like a Lab produces is just grim and knows what comes out of the ar8e of one of those XL things! 

I'm regularly surprised at how many people will piss in a doorway 25m of a high street in full view of the high street and everyone passing by in broad daylight.  Even more amazing given that within 25m on the high street are a couple of pubs you can nip it into if you really can't wait.

I think the answer to this conondrum is to have fenced off dedicated dog friendly parts of parks where dogs can be off lead and if you enter you accept you may be disturbed (not hurt -if the dog is a risk then it should not be off a lead anywhere).  The quid pro quo being dogs must be on leads in the rest of the park.