What has to hammered home over and over again when they knock a percent or two off the headline rates that this absolute peanuts compared to the non movement of tax thresholds as inflation has gone through the roof.

TBH they should do a poison pill - ram through swingeing tax cuts knowing they will probably lose the GE anyway - then spend a period in opposition belabouring Labour reversing their tax cuts (a narrative the Mail and others will be only too happy to run with).  

If there really are millions of Lydias out there, just gagging to vote for lower taxes, who knows, they might actually win.  In which case the inevitable reverse ferret will be something to behold... 

the headroom they talk about is projected spending cuts (so a pure fantasy) 

What, you mean cynically time cuts that they can’t possibly afford to come into play (say) 2 months before a general election in order to boost their seat total, but knowing that it won’t be by enough that labour when it comes in will be forced to reverse the unsustainable giveaway?

Well it certainly doesn’t sound like the sort of thing this high principled, ruling only for the good of the country government would do.

Or what pez with his faster fingers said

this is exactly what they are going to do

they will also try to ignore the £15-20bn they are going to have to pay in compensation for the infected blood scandal which in itself eats up any notional fiscal headspace the chancellor can otherwise conjure up

this is exactly what they are going to do

of course it is.  And tory supporters conveniently forget that we are currently being taxed at a higher rate than before the dark ages or something.   

Labour supporters conveniently forget that furlough etc was supported by Labour and has to be paid for. 

They won't do this at all. Nonsense scaremongering. 

They've learnt the lesson very well from Norman Lamont who cut taxes to the bone in 1992 believing he was going to be passing them on to Neil Kinnock and he then had to put them all back up a few months later when the Tories won against the odds.

They won't risk that history repeating itself.

Hunt and Sunak are cautious people by nature 

Lamont is IIRC on record as saying the promised tax cuts helped them win the 1992 GE.  The current lot would be probably glad for a repeat performance.  Or do they really want another term in charge of the country they've turbofvcked?   

tax cuts and a guarantee not to restrict domestic flights and some kind of sting in the tale to fvck labour on vat on school fees and they'd be home and dry

……..so far as one materially comfortable accountant who was already going to vote for them is concerned 

it's been quite a journey. i've finally stopped putting accountant on the forms when they ask for occupation. 

This bunch of puss-filled sore ridden ballbags told us when the deficit was the same level and debt to GDP was 70% not 100% that we had to "fix the roof". 

Off to Rwanda with them...

tax cuts and a guarantee not to restrict domestic flights and some kind of sting in the tale to fvck labour on vat on school fees and they'd be home and dry

I'm sorry but you've had your ban on 7 bins and a reversal of the labour meat tax. All that's left is a guarantee not to have amenities within an easily walkable 15 minutes of your urban dwelling. No more, no less. 

who the hell lives in an urban dwelling?

maybe it's the red wall voters i guess.

I know it probably takes you 15 minutes to get to the end of your driveway. 

For the second time today, what heffalump said 

the massive bomb they're ignoring to let labour deal with is the ~50% of local councils that are on the verge of bankruptcy in the next 24 months. 

i will 😂 so uber hard if they do this and then the economy starts booming due 2 the natural cycle and the deficit comes down neway, but with labour in power