So, there is no consensus on how to leave the EU

so we should just stay, yeah? 

No. Unfortunately we are going to seed a referendum between remain and some form of Brexit that means Brexit, and everyone who isn't an absolute nutter is going to have to get out and make sure that remain wins by a landslide to justify us never needing to mention this sorry debacle ever again. 

I'm getting very Abbey like about it all now in that I no longer care

if we leave we're fooked

if we stay we're fooked 

just fooking agree something

(this is not a criticism of Parliament who are doing their job in scrutinising every aspect of this shitshow)

QE, hang in there... We are way more fvked if we leave than if we stay.  I presume you mean, if we stay, that the leave headbangers will go mental - they probably will anyway because leaving the EU will not be the sunlit uplands populated with unicorns that they were promised. 

Oh I don't give a shit about the headbangers, but I think we have irrevocably destroyed whatever relationship we had with the EU and things just can't go back to how they were before

I've also come to terms with the fact that we are leaving and that we just need to damage-limit it as much as possible 

would love to be proved wrong on all of this

We haven't "ruined our relationship". The EU are not our bessie m8s, they're a bunch of gangsters. If we decided to remain, we'd be in exactly the same position that we were in in May 2016.

“bunch of gangsters”

?

compared to everywhere else in the world other than maybe New Zealand, they’re the nicest of gangsters then

(faint praise intentional)

The reason for all this nonsense is not because this parliament is uniquely difficult it is because all but a few nutjobs deep down recognise brexit is bad for the country and any option is therefore bad for the country - that is why there is no majority in favour of any form of brexit.  Unfortunately that is balanced with political fear of cancelling the whole thing.

An appalling but predictable mess and the blame has to go back to Cameron.

Ray can we get a time machine and go back to A50 triggering and tell them that? because the fookers didn't listen then when we tried to tell them

we will never be shot of it. I can't see it quietly going away but we need to get on with things and start determining our future either in or out of the EU

(I work in a business which is directly impacted by whether we stay or go and I've had enough)

 

I would welcome a long delay but, like revocation, a PV or whatever I can't see if happening as we are still in thrall to the shouty nutters and will of the people crap

what a bloody waste of three years