I have obtained sex by pretending not to be a horrid human being. 

Also chicken fillets in bra should be a criminal offence. 

wibble has obtained sex by going to the atm and raiding his bank account

what sort of "i'm a super hot social media influencer with loads of followers vs actually i'm a tax lawyer" sort of thing?

Heh

"I'm Bill Gates' little brother. Now blow me"

there is that undercover police thing going on.

I mean, what's the point of being an undercover secret agent if you can't shag around. that's basically the rules.

Virtually every man I gave slept with has obtained sex by deception 

some of them by pretending to be good at it 

those were the most annoying tbh 

did your lovers go "hey, you should really shag me, as I am really good at shagging" and you: "well I can't say 'no' if that's the case"

Exactly like that 

You've just summarised late night rof circa 2013/14

I took a rof break then

previously you had to entertain the rofette at least a little bit

Remember when Nev pretended to be Svetlana to get 3ducks and others to send him nude pics? 

That was mean. 

funny as fook though. 

Who doesn't do this to some degree? My principal activities of watching football and w**king won't impress anyone.

What about a man saying “I love you” prior to sleeping with someone but later saying “I actually never have loved you, I had said that just to sleep with you”. 

Has he comitted a crime? Up until now, I don’t think this behavior was seen as criminal, but I wonder if attitudes will change in this MeToo era. 

I think we are generally heading towards sex being a taboo and something that shouldn’t be practiced other than in the framework of marriage or other long term arrangement. Which isn’t necessarily a bad thing, on reflection. 

Good analyses have been done on this, I am clicking around trying to find one from a Sweet and Maxwell / Justis conference about four years ago and can't immediately find it but it exists, there is a better level of guidance on this than hilarious wit from Rof. Ok will post again if I find it.

Kind of more the opposite, clubbers. Say you were in a line of work where you didn't want to be unwittingly compromised and the person pretended to be more boring than they were. Not a spy level of unboring just someone your think twice about.

What like A is a copper (or even a lawyer or accountant) and sleeps with B who claims to be equally dull but is actually a drug dealer or from the finance team of patisserie Valerie or something?

I am pretty certain this is not a crime (but then I remain to be convinced about the fake ladypenis lady)

lol at finance team from Patisserie Valerie

What about telling someone you're clean when you know you are HIV positive?

(I'm sure there was a case on this but can't remember what the outcome was.)

People have been convicted for that Anna (I think of GBH)

That’s not a deception crime as such but an offence against the person act (if you have sex with them)

Should arguably be a deception crime as well though, no?

It's not such a stretch to say that if someone asks

asks a prospective sexual partner whether they have any STIs and that person says no, their consent to the sex is based on that answer.

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If you ever need a quick pick me up
Just stick my balls in your mouth

[Chorus]
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Ok. Here is an incomplete answer, of the law as at 2013.

Assange v Swedish Prosecution Authority 2011, and R(F) v DPP 2011 look like authority that continuing acts that are consensual up to and including penetration do not cease to be consensual thereafter. Hrmm.

R v McNally, 2013 about the defendant who was a girl not a boy, held that the deception as to gender vitiated consent but anticipated the obvious follow-on question for pub lawyers:  'in reality some deceptions (such as, for example, in relation to wealth) will obviously not be sufficient to vitiate consent."

Voila.

It seems to me that women are more likely to be the victims of such deception, given that men can lie about their money and status more easily than women can lie about their physical attractiveness.

Ok what about claiming an entirely different identity including a fake name to bolster that identity?

Was Captain Spermy not a real captain!!?

The cad.

You can call yourself whatever you like clergles.

I promise I won’t press charges afterwards.

Wasn't there a crim law case where the defendant entered the victim's house via the window and she invited him into her bed believing him to be her boyfriend and started having sex with him, only to realise halfway through the act that it was actually a random would-be burglar?

" more easily than women can lie about their physical attractiveness."

wtf - makeup and spanx and padded bras can give a VERY different impression to the reality. 

Anna I think that was the plot of one of the Canterbury tales 

Yes LP. That case was as memorable as R v Brown at uni

Yeah but you can still withdraw consent before it's too late.

Also, it can be surprisingly difficult to find non-padded bras.

heh@withdraw consent - I WAS HALFWAY IN OFFICER !

Heh!

For the first and last time, wot wibble said.

There is a big bit in that godawful film about radio caroline where someone tries to get his girlfriend to sleep with someone else by pretending to be him. The girlfriend is Gemma arteton iirc. Struck me a dodgy at the time. It would be refilmed now. 

Anna I think that was the plot of one of the Canterbury tales 

Also this! Yes! The Miller's Tale, wasn't it?

its in almost all Shakespeare too. 

Hmmmm, tricky.

On the one hand definitely a touch borderline on the whole ethical side of things, but on the other - Gemma frickin’ Arterton dude.

You can see the dilemma here I’m sure.

I never realised until recently *quite* how freckled GA is. It’s brilliant. 

Isn’t it?

Hmmmmmm, freckles.

Luminous, Kenneth, luminous. 

Makes one want to play dot-to-dot with sexwee, doesn't it?

Suits you.

And sometimes to be seen around a certain SE1 pub.

Well. Quite. 

It's a bit weird for a thread about rape to take this direction tbh

Anyway according to the CPS website it can negate consent but I'm not sure if the CPS would be inclined to reflect the middle ground or a more behaviour budget DON'T DO CRIME LADS angle.