"...no longer a safe political environment for Jewish people..."

"...or other opponents of anti-Semitism.”

Wow.

https://news.sky.com/story/ex-labour-general-secretary-lord-triesman-quits-antisemitic-party-11759748

Ex-Labour general secretary Lord Triesman has resigned from the party, claiming leader Jeremy Corbyn and "his circle" are "antisemitic".

In a letter announcing his decision to resign the Labour whip immediately, Lord Triesman described how "the experience of life in the party has become sickening".

He also claimed Labour has become "very plainly institutionally antisemitic".

Lord Triesman was the Labour Party's most senior official under former prime minister Tony Blair, before going on to serve as a government minister from the House of Lords under both Mr Blair and Gordon Brown...

 

"Day by day the extent and depth of antisemitism becomes clearer in the top leadership and National Executive Committee.

"Antisemites are shielded and solid and serious party members are thrown out unceremoniously.

"And each new manifestation is followed by a grim parade of social media messages directed at Jewish party members,

"The experience of life in the party has become sickening...

"...The old tropes about the secret wiring connecting Jewish entrepreneurs and the use of wealth to exercise secretive control can be heard on an almost daily basis...

"...My decision is straightforwardly about the party leadership's use of any excuse to allow their allies to attack Jews or to engage with antisemites.

"My sad conclusion is that the Labour Party is very plainly antisemitic, and its leader and his circle are antisemitic having never once made the right judgement call about an issue reflecting deep prejudice.

"The number of examples is shocking."

A few things:

1.  I am not Jewish

2.  I have never voted for any party other than Labour since I could vote in the 1980s

3.  I will not vote for them again whilst they are led by a virulently anti-Semitic faction of the party

4.  I feel sick that the Labour Party has been brought to this

5.  That is all

  

 

 

Does anyone know where I can find examples of Labour anti-semitism?

I only ever hear it spoken about in the abstract and find it really difficult to assess how much is in it.

The issue I have is that it doesn’t make sense (to me) for Labour to be anti-Semitic or be more anti-Semetic than any other party, and there is plenty of motivation for the other parties to trump up the allegation.

I have a totally open mind on it but find it hard to form a concrete view (although there is so much noise about it I err on the side that there must be anti-Semetism in the party).

 

This will be going down really well with their new target postal vote, though! 

Next election a guaranteed landslide. They know exactly what they're doing. 

Corbyn akbar!

There had to be someone from the cult around to defend Magic Grandpa, thanks for stepping up Sorrydidyousaysomething.

Sounds like a total misread of my post PM, but cheers.  Doesn't take me any further forward either.  I think Corbyn's a twat.

 

LMGTFY: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45030552

There is a load of it that is in the quagmire of is it anti-semitic / anti-zionist and, with respect to the MPs themselves who have been targeted, whether they have been targeted for being Jewish or whether the issue is just that all of the Jewish MPs are anti-Corbyn and getting battered by Momentum accordingly.  But there is a decent chunk that is obviously anti-semitic.

Even JC himself has admitted as much: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/jeremy-corbyn-labour-party-antisemitism-jewish-people-ihra-margaret-hodge-row-israel-a8476711.html

 

Labour's issue is that it is the party of the downtrodden so it has always supported the Palestinians but that means treading a fine line between criticism of Israeli actions and anti-semitism.  Recently they seem to have more often that not ended up criticising all Jews instead of criticising Israel.

I mean if you literally google "why are people saying labour is anti Semitic" you get a blow by blow account from the bbc but whatevs

As with most things that happen in the real world as opposed to being dummed down for news and twitter views the whole issue is quite complicated; 

on Palestine I suspect that as JC has always been anti capitalist/america and since israel is a proxy america his interest comes predominently from that angle 

plenty of labour's more conservative voters however interpret that as support for some sort of endorsement of annexation of israel which I doubt is really what JC wants (though you'd don't get the feeling that he'd be protesting much if i.e. Jordan rolled in the tanks) 

then you have the much more murky "money lender" shit that seems to permeate the fanatics on left and right and which Corbyn himself seems less inclinced to push back on. Personally I think this is worse than being vaguely critical of a constant drip feed of middle east car crash (but I don't have a personal connection to Israel, it's just another jordan or egypt to me). Worse because this is encouraging people to look at their neighbours as if they are the cause of a loss of opprotunity. Thank fuck we have brexit around the corner to cause an economic shock to anyone not a London banker and thus make this 10 times worse.  

As with most things that happen in the real world as opposed to being dummed down for news and twitter views the whole issue is quite complicated; 

on Palestine I suspect that as JC has always been anti capitalist/america and since israel is a proxy america his interest comes predominently from that angle 

plenty of labour's more conservative voters however interpret that as support for some sort of endorsement of annexation of israel which I doubt is really what JC wants (though you'd don't get the feeling that he'd be protesting much if i.e. Jordan rolled in the tanks) 

then you have the much more murky "money lender" shit that seems to permeate the fanatics on left and right and which Corbyn himself seems less inclinced to push back on. Personally I think this is worse than being vaguely critical of a constant drip feed of middle east car crash (but I don't have a personal connection to Israel, it's just another jordan or egypt to me). Worse because this is encouraging people to look at their neighbours as if they are the cause of a loss of opprotunity. Thank fuck we have brexit around the corner to cause an economic shock to anyone not a London banker and thus make this 10 times worse.  

number of days since hanners celebrated anti-semitism by the labour party:

 

1

Yeah Linda my point is that those articles have a lot of opinion, summaries of issues, second-hand evidence commentary, but not a lot of substance (there is some, just not a lot).