Murder on ITV News (but clearly justified)

https://www.itv.com/news/2024-01-23/moment-civilian-brandishing-white-flag-in-gaza-safe-zone-is-shot-dead

I presume he was carrying an anti-tank launcher in his pocket or was a clear suicide bomber which justifies this? This must have been the right action as Israel has the most moral army in the world.

There is a strange edit point between the point where the audio purports to record gun fire (at which point all of  the men turn and run perfectly normally) and the moment where the "interviewee" is seen lying down on the floor. 

 

at this point Israel should probably just hire Rishi to do their public relations stunts, somehow they have managed the impossible and are even worse at swaying public opinion than him

In response to a request from ITV News, the IDF said it categorically denies any existence of "field executions".

An IDF statement read: "It is imperative to emphasise that the alarming, libelous and a gross mischaracterisation of the war with these despicable accusations can only be deemed as an extension of Hamas' propaganda effort to defame the IDF and undermine our objective to dismantle Hamas and ensure the terrorist entity never again holds the power to build a terrorist army, invade Israel, murder, burn, rape and abduct Israelis."

Oh, the IDF made a statement that we must accept as true..

Here's what I just saw, I saw Bloody Sunday 1972 where the IRA recruitment went off the scale because people were enraged at the senseless and unjustified killing of civilians.  

I've largely kept out of this but I am outraged at the behaviour of Israel (not surprised, just outraged).

I'm sick of criticism of Israel being labelled as "Antisemitic" or being pro Hamas.

I'm sick of the rhetoric that says "the Palestinians voted for Hamas" when over 50% of the population of Gaza hadn't even been born or eligible to vote.

This campaign is ethnic cleansing and murder for revenge and a lebensraum land grab.

 

There is a strange edit point between the point where the audio purports to record gun fire (at which point all of  the men turn and run perfectly normally) and the moment where the "interviewee" is seen lying down on the floor.

IT’S ANNOYING ISN’T IT: I WAS REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING THE PALESTINIAN BEING SHOT!!

I'm waiting for Amit to argue that a white flag is the flag of Israel with the Star of David and stripes removed and therefore symbolic of this man's desire to destroy the state of Israel. 

Surely the IDF would look much better if they just said some unfortunate stray shots from the battle going on just down the road.  People would be sceptical but hard to prove.

there it is.. the "they were shot by their own" bullsh.

Any high ground that Israel had in October is gone.  25,000 dead, mostly young people and children.  And it continues.  To what end?  If you think they're destroying Hamas, think again.  Their leaders are safely tucked away in Qatar and other friendly nations.  

30 years of troubles in Northern Ireland should have taught people a lesson of what happens when you murder innocent civilians.  Here's a clue, it escalates.

I commented at the very beginning of this that it was very odd that Israel was not aware of or prepared for the Hamas attack in advance.  It felt like a Reichstag moment, an excuse to over react.  When I said this, I thought it was to distract from Netanyahu's legal problems.  Now, I'm thinking this is a land grab as well. 

Amit when one team has far more players and equipment and has cut an area off it's rather more likely that the shots have come from them rather than a very tiny handful of opposition who might be about.  It's like saying that some of the Poles in WWII clearly died from friendly fire.

hey, playftse, perhaps it would be more difficult to compare what's happening to the nazis, if it wasn't actually looking like what the nazis did.

The holocaust doesn't give Israel permission to do the same thing and somehow be inoculated.

I'm far from being an antisemite but thanks for trying (calling everyone who criticises Israel an antisemite contributes to the growth of antisemitism, so I'd encourage you to stop doing that).

 

thanks for the independent article Amit, that really shows me I'm wrong and the IDF is completely right to continue their murder campaign.  How did I not see that, you've really opened my eyes.

Eddie comparing Israel to the Nazis is one of the most obvious examples of antisemitism there is. 

So much so that it is cited in the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance's definition if antisemitism.

And you've doubled down on that with this, you fuçking dirty racist scumbag  

The holocaust doesn't give Israel permission to do the same thing and somehow be inoculated.

Btw I know playftse4me. He is trolling, so don't be too mean on him. He goes to the Palestinian protests and is one of the biggest supporters of Palestine that I know.

 

We all know, even supporters of Israel, know they are committing genocide. It has got to the point where you don't even need to point out details. It is just blatantly in your face at this point.

Watch the clip. See the child being screamed at to run, see the poor man’s wife screaming when she finds out her husband has been killed. And then insist it’s fake / faked / propaganda. Sick. 

Eddie comparing Israel to the Nazis is one of the most obvious examples of antisemitism there is. 

Ironically, its one of the clearest examples of what apologists claim is automatically antisemitism, but is actually not.

Real friends of Israel don't let Israel descend into the kind of behaviour we compare to that of the Nazi's.  They point out the problem because they want Israel to change for the better.  People who don't genuinely care about Israel's long term future in the region and the world make excuses and facilitate their criminal behaviour instead.  Unless those people are stopped, Israel is at dire risk