Will be exploited by businesses who clearly owe individuals money (eg black and white debt claims/refunds) and have the in-house ability to defend claims, forcing unsophisticated claimants to spend more time and money trying to recover what is due.
”I paid you £1,500 for a new cooker and it never arrived. Give me my money back.”
”Lol okay pay your issue fee and your mediation fee and we’ll see you in 12 months age you’ve taken two days off work to attend mediation and a hearing. Or we’ll give you £1,000 now.”
Many on rof complain that political discourse is poisoned because Of the whipping up of hate by one side against the other; but that’s all lawyers really do anyway isn’t it!
who is footing the bill for adding 10,000 new mediators to the civil court system?
legal action is costly, the best way to reduce that is to digitise as much as possible, not add more layers to jump through and more assistants and more semi judges.
Not sure why a £100 claim needs mediation AND THEN a small claim if it does not settle. Just have an hour long hearing and job done. Maybe make the mediation an ENE? Or even med-arb?
Risky, m7, given that your contributions on this matter reveal a fundamental ignorance of legal matters perhaps you had better stick to commenting on stuff you know about…
However, he knows as well as we do that a strong legal system and a well staffed cadre of professional administrators of it is the backbone of any economy.
Who do you think deals with mediation risky? Who prepares the position statements, bundles, pre correspondence and then sits in a grotty room with the client for 9 (chargeable) hours?
Will be pointless in the sort of debt claims we have to chuck into the system. If the defendant was minded to compromise at all, we’d have already snapped their hands off before it got to this stage.
I remember doing work experience at the old central london country court where they had an experimental mandatory mediation process with the mediator being an HMCS dude and the mediation being scheduled for a maximum of 3 hrs.
Our client hated the idea of it and wanted his day in court and the other side told us at the outset they weren't going to settle and were only there to avoid being in contempt of court.
Anyway, 2 hours and 10 minutes later the mediator had got them close enough together for them to agree a settlement there and then.
Only works if it’s binding, ie not just an option, else, surprise surprise it just becomes another stage to be gamed into the costs void so beloved of lawyers.
Best settlement I ever achieved happened after my client accepted my advice to walkout of a mediation. Very ballsy. The other side was a clearing bank which folded swiftly after its bluff was called.
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Terrible idea.
Will be exploited by businesses who clearly owe individuals money (eg black and white debt claims/refunds) and have the in-house ability to defend claims, forcing unsophisticated claimants to spend more time and money trying to recover what is due.
”I paid you £1,500 for a new cooker and it never arrived. Give me my money back.”
”Lol okay pay your issue fee and your mediation fee and we’ll see you in 12 months age you’ve taken two days off work to attend mediation and a hearing. Or we’ll give you £1,000 now.”
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More cases settled without having to incur legal fees? Terrible!
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Below £10k is small claims track where legal fees aren't typically recoverable (and therefore not excessively expended anyway).;
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Stupid idea.
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mediation is bullshit
we need more and better and faster courts
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Many on rof complain that political discourse is poisoned because Of the whipping up of hate by one side against the other; but that’s all lawyers really do anyway isn’t it!
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Currently 55pc of cases settle at the mediatio
stage. Great for all
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We should give people the option of going on TV court before Judge Rinder.
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risk free return02 Sep 22 08:01
More cases settled without having to incur legal fees? Terrible!
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more bureaucracy and administration
why would they not incurr legal fees?
who is footing the bill for adding 10,000 new mediators to the civil court system?
legal action is costly, the best way to reduce that is to digitise as much as possible, not add more layers to jump through and more assistants and more semi judges.
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Not sure why a £100 claim needs mediation AND THEN a small claim if it does not settle. Just have an hour long hearing and job done. Maybe make the mediation an ENE? Or even med-arb?
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Risky, m7, given that your contributions on this matter reveal a fundamental ignorance of legal matters perhaps you had better stick to commenting on stuff you know about…
Oh! Bye then…
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Ha ha vested interest going to squeal!
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despite being a lawyer, risky routinely pretends to hate lawyers on here, to get a rise
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However, he knows as well as we do that a strong legal system and a well staffed cadre of professional administrators of it is the backbone of any economy.
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You do understand that the vast majority of Roffers aren't even litigators, let along working for the type of claims in question, right?
You are showing Truss-level intelligence on this one.
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The Risky persona claims not to be a lawyer, Laz
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‘Ha ha vested interest going to squeal!‘
Who do you think deals with mediation risky? Who prepares the position statements, bundles, pre correspondence and then sits in a grotty room with the client for 9 (chargeable) hours?
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Terrible idea.
Will be exploited by "The Man".
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risk free return02 Sep 22 08:52
Ha ha vested interest going to squeal!
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yeah
my life's dream is to represent a 5K case about a kettle that didn't work against a mad LIP
however will kids eat if you take away my fee for that one
I'm honestly starting to think Risky might be Dominic Raab
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A £5,000 kettle?
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Will be pointless in the sort of debt claims we have to chuck into the system. If the defendant was minded to compromise at all, we’d have already snapped their hands off before it got to this stage.
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I remember doing work experience at the old central london country court where they had an experimental mandatory mediation process with the mediator being an HMCS dude and the mediation being scheduled for a maximum of 3 hrs.
Our client hated the idea of it and wanted his day in court and the other side told us at the outset they weren't going to settle and were only there to avoid being in contempt of court.
Anyway, 2 hours and 10 minutes later the mediator had got them close enough together for them to agree a settlement there and then.
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Only works if it’s binding, ie not just an option, else, surprise surprise it just becomes another stage to be gamed into the costs void so beloved of lawyers.
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People are spending 5k on a kettle!? Wtf?
Is this since BoJo's speech?
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until raab embarrassed himself by trying 2 carry out a role of responsibility, hanners used 2 worship him and repeat his every word
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Really? More lies from
oracle!
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Did you mean to tacitly admit you are Hanners?
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No Orwell. But I have to assume they’re talking about me. If he really did just mean hanners then I withdraw my accusation of lying.
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😂😂
the funny thing is the whole “lies!!!!” schtick is soooooooo hannerz
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Best settlement I ever achieved happened after my client accepted my advice to walkout of a mediation. Very ballsy. The other side was a clearing bank which folded swiftly after its bluff was called.
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It might help for the shit ton of low level stuff in the court system - dodgy builders, private parking, minor debt recovery.
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