I am loathe to be positive about Bodger or this Government, but...

...I am liking the sound of these mass vaccination centres.  Sir Simon sounds like he knows his shit.  I trust the Army logistics bods to do well.  I really hope this goes well because it really could get us turning a corner.

Yep, this is all sounding good news. The mood music from bozza about the vast majority of deaths being in the grip being vaccinated suggests they’re gearing up to let us all free as soon as this is rolled out fully 

If the defining story of this ends up being the UK having one of the fastest vaccination programmes in the world, Johnson will be the jammiest little gobshite in human history.

I am very positive that we will be 3rd in the world.  I think that we'll always be behind Israel and Bahrain, but great going BoJo. Hope that we get an extra holiday in August.

Per capita vaccination counts should be compared to other countries. It's a pretty comparable figure and can shame a local government into moving faster if their neighbor countries are way ahead. 

 

what was troubling was covid deaths comparison when in the UK initially no one could ever recover from covid (until the 28 day and 60 day figures came out); and comparing covid cases for places with wildly different tests per capita etc 

No amount of money is too much (okay almost no amount)  to spend on this initiative. The returns are incredibly massive if we can use this for the gov to justifying ending lockdowns and opening travel 

No amount of money is too much (okay almost no amount)  to spend on this initiative. The returns are incredibly massive if we can use this for the gov to justifying ending lockdowns and opening travel 

Which is why the OxVax team should be praised for doing giving it away at cost.

I'm also now optimistic this is going in the right direction. Getting the army involved was 100% the right decision and I loved the urgency in that press conference. The day to day scrutiny on progress will clearly improve results dramatically and leave minimal room for excuses. 

I’m optimistic about this. What I’m concerned about is the government enforcing the lockdown for too long. If numbers start dropping drastically, which they really should given a hard lockdown and vaccines going out, we need to unlock as quickly as possible. I’m talking, if we go from 60,000 cases to 5,000 cases in a week, we also need to go from full lockdown to national tier 1/2 max, even if we are still at 800+ deaths a day.

The change of sentiment is sickening.  We have the easiest geography, transport infrastructure and vaccine procurement power for this.  Lol @ the zealots that are now showering HM's Gov and army in praise now.  Numpties

OD - I think that was the subtext from bozza - once we’ve protected the group that make up the majority of deaths to e imperative for lockdown, distancing etc reduces massively. Add that to the softening from whitty this week in terms of acknowledging the concept of acceptable levels of deaths and i think we are out of this 

Why shouldnt sentiment change? Sometimes things are fooked up sometimes things are done well. Credit where its due (tho tbh its all a bit early for that...)

Part of the problem we have is that people pick a side and then see everything that happens through that narrative such that their sentiment never changes.

We have a very difficult geography. England has a higher pop density than any European nation of any real size. Other than the Netherlands which doesn’t have things like the Peak District cutting down inhabitable areas.  Plus an uneven population distribution and a strong vertical axis. 

This: "If the defining story of this ends up being the UK having one of the fastest vaccination programmes in the world, Johnson will be the jammiest little gobshite in human history."

He is a jammy, jammy git. I still don't think that will be the defining story. Too much has been going on, for too long.

I’m sorry, but it winds me the fook up that someone who presumably is of adult reading age could possibly think that the fat lying evil aunt deserves praise for the vaccine’s creation or logistical roll out. 

Don't forget that the figures they're promising are not actual vaccinations but "offers" of vaccination. If it's anything like the testing fiasco they will offer people vaccinations at the other end of the country and then add them to the tally.

“Heh @ Spain blaming brexit for the EU being shit at vaccine procurement.”
 

I think I must have almost reached the acceptance stage with the catastrophe that is Brexit, as I found that mildly amusing too.

Wasn’t Alex the fella that promised £350m a week for the NHS? Sacked from 2 jobs for lying? 
 

What was that saying Dubya fooked up? Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

From memory there were quite a few testing centres too. Didn’t seem to stop people being sent all over the country (and them claiming a “test” for every kit sent out or swab taken rather than actually processing it). 

Davos proving the Oracle right.

The only “they” who say “The proof is in the pudding” are ignorami who were not educated to a basic level of common meaningful English phrases.