I am loathe to be positive about Bodger or this Government, but...

...I am liking the sound of these mass vaccination centres.  Sir Simon sounds like he knows his shit.  I trust the Army logistics bods to do well.  I really hope this goes well because it really could get us turning a corner.

Yep, this is all sounding good news. The mood music from bozza about the vast majority of deaths being in the grip being vaccinated suggests they’re gearing up to let us all free as soon as this is rolled out fully 

1.5 million vaccinated so far is pretty good going TBF. I doubt if France has done one thousandth of that.

Interesting how international comparisons suddenly become relevant again...

but fair play,  so far so good

If the defining story of this ends up being the UK having one of the fastest vaccination programmes in the world, Johnson will be the jammiest little gobshite in human history.

I am very positive that we will be 3rd in the world.  I think that we'll always be behind Israel and Bahrain, but great going BoJo. Hope that we get an extra holiday in August.

Fair play too for condemning Trump and telling people who think hospitals are empty to “grow up”

the success of any vaccine programme will have eff all to do with johnson - it will succeed despite him and his useless cronies. 

Back to normal by April hopefully 

don't expect your kids in school before Easter, people 

I am naturally an optimistic person but I am not getting too carried away yet - lots of scope for a badly run govt to cock this up.

Per capita vaccination counts should be compared to other countries. It's a pretty comparable figure and can shame a local government into moving faster if their neighbor countries are way ahead. 

 

what was troubling was covid deaths comparison when in the UK initially no one could ever recover from covid (until the 28 day and 60 day figures came out); and comparing covid cases for places with wildly different tests per capita etc 

No amount of money is too much (okay almost no amount)  to spend on this initiative. The returns are incredibly massive if we can use this for the gov to justifying ending lockdowns and opening travel 

Hopefully the vaccination programme is the one thing they wont 'fuck up'. However, to date on the programme well done to the govt.

No amount of money is too much (okay almost no amount)  to spend on this initiative. The returns are incredibly massive if we can use this for the gov to justifying ending lockdowns and opening travel 

Which is why the OxVax team should be praised for doing giving it away at cost.

I'm also now optimistic this is going in the right direction. Getting the army involved was 100% the right decision and I loved the urgency in that press conference. The day to day scrutiny on progress will clearly improve results dramatically and leave minimal room for excuses. 

I’m optimistic about this. What I’m concerned about is the government enforcing the lockdown for too long. If numbers start dropping drastically, which they really should given a hard lockdown and vaccines going out, we need to unlock as quickly as possible. I’m talking, if we go from 60,000 cases to 5,000 cases in a week, we also need to go from full lockdown to national tier 1/2 max, even if we are still at 800+ deaths a day.

The change of sentiment is sickening.  We have the easiest geography, transport infrastructure and vaccine procurement power for this.  Lol @ the zealots that are now showering HM's Gov and army in praise now.  Numpties

OD - I think that was the subtext from bozza - once we’ve protected the group that make up the majority of deaths to e imperative for lockdown, distancing etc reduces massively. Add that to the softening from whitty this week in terms of acknowledging the concept of acceptable levels of deaths and i think we are out of this 

Why shouldnt sentiment change? Sometimes things are fucked up sometimes things are done well. Credit where its due (tho tbh its all a bit early for that...)

Part of the problem we have is that people pick a side and then see everything that happens through that narrative such that their sentiment never changes.

I agree with Canary. Uk govt clearly has made better decisions on vaccine procurement than others 

Sorry to put a downer on things, but don't people now have to wait 12 weeks before the second jab? So that's mid-May before everyone's vaccinated properly.

We have a very difficult geography. England has a higher pop density than any European nation of any real size. Other than the Netherlands which doesn’t have things like the Peak District cutting down inhabitable areas.  Plus an uneven population distribution and a strong vertical axis. 

High population density makes it a row of beans to mobilise a vaccination schedule ya clerg 

but great going BoJo

 

Any chance you could manifest yourself a few more IQ points? Jesus fucking Christ some people. 

When this is over can we have a military coup? All sorted then.

France had vaccinated about 550 people when the UK was edging 1m.

Heh @ Spain blaming brexit for the EU being shit at vaccine procurement.

This: "If the defining story of this ends up being the UK having one of the fastest vaccination programmes in the world, Johnson will be the jammiest little gobshite in human history."

He is a jammy, jammy git. I still don't think that will be the defining story. Too much has been going on, for too long.

Lol

The guy who has let us down at every turn and broken every pledge he has made will deffo deliver this time.

Huzzah for ‘Bojo’.

I’m sorry, but it winds me the fuck up that someone who presumably is of adult reading age could possibly think that the fat lying evil cunt deserves praise for the vaccine’s creation or logistical roll out. 

Don't forget that the figures they're promising are not actual vaccinations but "offers" of vaccination. If it's anything like the testing fiasco they will offer people vaccinations at the other end of the country and then add them to the tally.

Or just outright lie like the 100k a day nonsense 

They said that everyone would have a vaccination location within ten miles (I think it was) 

“Heh @ Spain blaming brexit for the EU being shit at vaccine procurement.”
 

I think I must have almost reached the acceptance stage with the catastrophe that is Brexit, as I found that mildly amusing too.

Wasn’t Alex the fella that promised £350m a week for the NHS? Sacked from 2 jobs for lying? 
 

What was that saying Dubya fucked up? Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

i was just about to point out the same thing. it’s basic.

trouble is the illiterati have taken over rof recently

Proof is in the pudding as they say but I'm liking what he is saying and what he is getting done. Could this be the turning point? 

From memory there were quite a few testing centres too. Didn’t seem to stop people being sent all over the country (and them claiming a “test” for every kit sent out or swab taken rather than actually processing it). 

Davos proving the Oracle right.

The only “they” who say “The proof is in the pudding” are ignorami who were not educated to a basic level of common meaningful English phrases.