Assault on the train last night

Another J17 thread, but i was on the train last night and this guy gets on having a bit of a barney with his gf. He walked on with his hand around her arm, looked a bit tight grip, but not assault.....yet. Anyway, argument continues and he pokes her in the arm. not gently, but not too hard. then he pokes her in the face with his index finger. people are watching but not sure whether to say anything and a few people start to move away. then she looked away and he pulled her hair to force her to look in his direction

i didn't say anything, but got off the train to see him pulling her hair harder and almost shouting at the side of her face

i really think i should have said something. but he was a black guy and, conscious of my white pivilege, i'm really not sure if getting involved would have been appropriate

thoughts?

my thoughts are that you should have contacted the police or a member of staff when you got off the train, or tried to find the OBS on the train before getting off, and that your last sentence about the bloke in question being black is either a tun-hunt or a feeble excuse for you doing nothing.  

Im not accusing you of incorrect viewpoints as it may be completely subconsious - I know my mind goes there  - but would we have jumped to a knife if it had been a white guy??

You should have removed your '45 from the waistband of your Reebock popper-sided tracksuit bottoms and capped that woman-beating hayta's ass, obviously.  What were you thinking?

I think guys who are sufficiently disinhibited to assault their partners in public probably also assault guys who irritate them. Doesn't need to be a knife, could be a handy discarded bottle.

Isn't assault merely the use of words and behaviour that lead someone to reasonably believe that you are about to use unlawful force against them?  On that basis he'd assaulted long before he grabbed her arm.

If was getting off the train I might have asked if she needed help on the way past hoping that he wouldn't decide to get off and follow me although more change of getting away on a platform that there is on a train.

"then she looked away and he pulled her hair to force her to look in his direction

i didn't say anything, but got off the train to see him pulling her hair harder and almost shouting at the side of her face"

"Sounds nasty although it can sometimes be hard to tell what is consensual and what is not do probably best not to intervene as her life was not in danger"

If he'd just got on the train and started shouting at and pulling the hair of a complete stranger, would you just leave them to it because he's not actually murdering her?

 

Does the ethnicity of the victim make a difference in your universe too, or do you ignore them equally?  Asking just in case I'm ever unlucky enough to get assaulted in a train carriage full of people who'll ignore it.

When I was but a young meh I was possibly assaulted, well I guess I probably was, when an ex angrily pushed me backwards onto the ground during an argument.

A cabbie who was close by asked loudly if I was alright which diffused the situation I think because the ex realised the dickishness of his actions.

Love the F10 M5 but its a travesty they don't offer Manual in Europe

 

assumng yours is not an import, even if it was it would then have to be a LHD manual 

yeah, sucks balls, but the loss adjuster lied on his report, so hopefully my complaint highlighting this should have grabbed their attention. Quite like the idea of a brand new engine

It was certainly common assault, no doubt about it. But it is rarely worthwhile intervening in these kinds of situations. Too many variables including the risk that the victim doesn’t want your intervention. And I speak as someone who has actually intervened a couple of times in this kind of situation (and once got shoved onto the street and fell in the path of oncoming traffic who had to slam on the brakes). I certainly wouldn’t intervene for a common assault - only potential serious injury. and even then only if I didn’t have my kids with me. 

love that people who know nothing about cars can only conclude the only reason to buy a decent car is to make up for some sort of inadequacies 

look, friend, if you cant run well, or catch balls, or know nothing about cars, dont hate on all the guys that can