Another reminder of where encouraging bigotry gets you...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-65692233

First they came for the trans women, and apparently, because of the absurd fiction that it was 'keeping women safe', retarded bigotry towards trans women was ok.  Hmmm, I wonder if normalising and encouraging bigotry and intolerance against minorities could have any spillover effects?  Think the alt right is going to stop at cruelty to trans kids?

Turns out no.  The alt right, emboldended by their new social acceptability and full of new recruits, went after abortion. 

Now the alt right are going after gay people.

Great job people, great job. 

Just a quick line to say that you can be supportive of trans people in general and yet be satisfied that they should not necessarily be granted everything they demand.

Target are majorly backpedaling because the crop tops they were selling for young girls had a label stating it had a "binding effect" and the girls' bikini bottoms label said they were "tuck friendly".

In the kid's range.

No one is happy slapping a shop worker for a rainbow t.shirt.

hayley - that’s not true 

even the national review admits they’re not for kids, they’re for trans people

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/target-reportedly-moving-pride-items-to-back-of-store-to-avoid-the-bud-light-treatment/

Target shoppers have posted videos and images of swimsuits with clothing tags that describe the items as having a “light binding effect” on breasts and “tuck-friendly construction” for male genitalia. An adult swim top for sale on Target’s website mentions the “light binding effect” in the description, although an adult one-piece does not mention the “tuck-friendly” design. Some of the children’s swimsuits are described online as being able “thoughtfully fit on multiple body types and gender expressions.”

“The ‘tuck-friendly’ swim suits are for adults only,” a spokesperson for Target told the Associated Press.

but keep swallowing and repeating that anti-trans propaganda, it makes you look great 👍

if kids want this stuff, then they buy buy it and if they don't they don't.  This weird attempt to condition kids into wearing "approved" clothing etc. is really frickin' weird.  

Or we could celebrate the fact that this stuff is even on sale in some parts of the US where a decade ago they'd have burnt the shop down for stocking it.  You seem to fall into the trap of thinking the most of the US population are like us because we mainly see people from the liberal coastal states in the press but in fact a lot of them are still deeply backward religious zealots.

When it comes to bigotry, of the two parties that believe women can have a penis one recently became the only party in history to be found to have committed unlawful acts of racism by the EHRC and the other previously elected a  leader who believed that gay sex is a sin.

Come back again when you've cleaned up your side of the street. 

When it comes to bigotry, of the two parties that believe women can have a penis one recently became the only party in history to be found to have committed unlawful acts of racism by the EHRC and the other previously elected a  leader who believed that gay sex is a sin.

What is this, a pub quiz? 

Glad you don’t care chill, but the kids in nobs park run really do, they wait for their times every week in eager anticipation to see if they’ve scored a PB that week or how fast they are compared to their peers. You’re effectively robbing them of that and it’s shit. 

You’re effectively robbing them of that and it’s shit.

erm no i’m not - how is a trans person joining a run stopping them from checking their personal best or comparing themselves to their peers??

On the subject of self-ID, a Parkrun spokesman said the fun run was not a race or athletic competition overseen by national or international federations and believed that it would not be 'appropriate or practical' to request proof of gender or 'adjudicate the validity of a person's gender identity'.

this makes complete sense to me - i assume ob wouldn’t want nob and their friends being subject to genital checks before every run?

"Now the alt right are going after gay people."

The selling of these items has nothing to do with gay people. It is intended to make money, pure and simple. The audience won't be gay people, because gay people want to fit in. Those stating "I am trans" want to stand out, want to be seen and acknowledged by everyone in society. Such people are presumably the audience.

"retarded bigotry"

Lastly, 2 of us pointed out this disgraceful language you've taken to using on here. Still you persist. Once again, can you stop using language like this. You're close to retirement. You're far too old to be getting kicks out of being this antisocial.

"The selling of these items has nothing to do with gay people. It is intended to make money, pure and simple. The audience won't be gay people, because gay people want to fit in. Those stating "I am trans" want to stand out, want to be seen and acknowledged by everyone in society. Such people are presumably the audience."

Well this is offensive and incorrect 

 

What's offensive is following people around a chat forum namecalling as a middle-aged male solicitor subject to professional oversight, who claims to be able to conduct himself ethically.

 

What do you object to in what I posted Davos?

You are just a smidge obsessed with age, rumpole!  I'm guessing you're not exactly a teenage ingenue yourself, so why the constant digs about people's age?

Such as Davos? You've been quite comfortable abusing me in very clear terms over and over following me around the board to do so. The bully role comes natural to you seemingly. Why so coy now you're asked to explain what you object to in what I posted? What do you object to in what I posted?

Rumpole you are clearly trolling, given I answered - but I'll play and in the meantime please post any 'bullying' I have done

But I object to you saying gay people want to 'fit in' and trans people 'dont want to fit in' - as it's obviously nonsense but it's offensive

Are you actually being serious as to why stereotypes are offensive (ie do you lack intelligence) or are you just trolling?

"All men are sex pests"

"All women marry for money" 

"All {insert race} are {insert stereotype}" 

Please post any bullying you accuse me of 

Again, nothing specific. You're performing outrage. None of that has anything to do with my post. You're being schooled in how to enact failed drama school application performance on the internet.

You've essentially lied for clout on an unpopular chat forum for middle-aged office bores. Why?

Ok, my fellow middle age bore, please go into your shop tomorrow and send a circular saying the following 

"I believe gay people want to fit in and trans people just want attention" 

After all, that is what you believe and seemingly think isn't offensive, so you'll have no issue telling your colleagues

"my fellow middle age "

I'm 30.

"and trans people just want attention"

^^în your head, nothing I posted

"please go into your shop"

No idea what this means

The wonderful performance of this poem by courageous Aja, a lesbian, subject to abuse and harassment because she advocates for the safety, dignity and privacy of females, and stresses the need to retain single-sex spaces, and to refuse to consider male partners as a same-sex attracted female

And also a brave female who puts herself between aggressive males seeking to attack females wanting to speak at let women speak events, in order that women can speak

She's the very best of us

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSbgPkgn8bo

 

Lesbians A.R.E OUT!

Birthed By: Aja

We’re leaving you – It’s over it’s done

We’ve had enough of the lies you’ve spun 

The party has ended you pushed us too far

You came and took all the things that was ours

 

Our spaces, our history, now even the kids

You say we owe you this for all the things that you did 

Like gettin us our rights some long ago night

 

 When police and the gays had a civil rights fight  

A brick was thrown…but by who?

Nobody knows…and certainly not you.

It wasn’t by Marsha coz he said so himself

 

Go watch the video, and educate yourself 

If it’s a hero you wanna make from that night

Look no further than the brown butch dyke

 

It was Stormé who’s words inspired

As she was carried away by the police that day. 

“Isn’t anyone going to do anything?”

Is what they heard her say. Words still true today.

 

As we are pushed out of spaces we helped build and create 

Told we aren’t welcome because we’re so full of hate. 

Our rallies are protested, dating apps over run

Even Stonewall says we don’t belong

 

A genital fetish is what they say we have, 

Coz we refuse to mess with the genitals of a man. 

“Just try it once – you might like it!” they say

We’ve heard this all before, same shit, new day.

 

“It’s just trauma that makes you not fancy them”.

“Na mate Its coz we’re lesbian. 

We like our own kind, real she/hers, not a man in disguise 

Our goals aren’t the same; our wants don’t align

 

LGB’s about attraction TQ+ is all in your mind

We are not the same tribe 

We want to be treated like everyone else

You want to be treated like someone else

 

We got forced teamed with you, and I’m not sure why

I guess we were feeling kind, when you jumped on our back for a free ride

Well it’s not been free for us 

We’ve been struggling and working our arse off

 

Tryin to get acceptance, which we just about had 

Then you woke up and started acting mad

With your wild claims and your attempt to bulldoze anyone that stands in your way 

Demanding everyone deny the truth, and capitulate to you

 

You say our fights the same, well, it’s absolutely not 

I don’t need pronouns, or a binder, or medications 

I don’t need to cut bits off, or sew bits on

And I don’t compel speech

 

I just need to accept me for me,

A woman who loves women 

And hope society does the same, which it almost did 

But you want facts to change

 

You want bears to not shit in the woods

You want water to not be wet 

It’s you yourself that you can’t accept 

We are not in the same boat

 

So see and cope or don’t 

Just know we are leaving you and there’s nothing you can do 

Lesbians are divorcing the TQ

LGB people want people to stop lumping them in with the letters, as LGB is about sexuality, which is innate. LGB people want to be able to advocate for their specific needs, and don't want to be grouped with the letters.

Chill comparing your performance to your peers requires them to be your peers.  That’s why park run even breaks it down into age groups as no point comparing my performance against an 18 year age old.

For the record Davos is one of the least bullying people here.

I need to get one of those tuck it in swimwear items

well endowed men like myself often feel embarrassed when wearing regular speedos

especially under the matriarchal FemALe GaZe

like, haven’t you ever seen a massive schlong before? I just use it to pee out of and pleasure women, same as any other guy!

I for one and disgusted that I am now expected to tuck my gonads away while wearing women's swimming costumes. 

The light binding effect is, however, quite flattering.