“ We risk being seen as the ‘nasty party’ again, warn senior Conservatives

Erm because people* don't vote for nasty people

And the Tories are (to put it mildly) nasty

 

 

 

*Obviously risky Lydia Clergs will because reasons but they also hate vaccines so not exactly people to rely on

That boat has not only sailed, it’s traversed the Atlantic, navigated the Caribbean and gulf of mexico and is currently in Belize avoiding extradition proceedings. 

Currently polling in red wall constituencies:

Labour 52% (-1) 
Conservative 27% (+1)
Reform UK 9% (–)
Liberal Democrat 6% (–)
Green 4% (–)
Plaid Cymru 1% (–)
Other 2% (+1)

The Tories are certainly lapping something up m6.

But, as Work Experience says himself in his latest vid “You can’t stay here, no matter how hard you try.” Which is just what the country will be saying to him and his cohort next year. 

1 of the biggest falsehoods is that the polls have been wrong l7ely 

they haven’t, they’ve been pretty accur7 - it’s the shouty newspapers with a rightwhinge agenda who’ve pretended there was different polling.

eg b4 brexit - it was only the week after a brexter murdered jo cox that polling respondents sed they would vote remain, prior 2 that it had been neck and neck and in the last 4 weeks or so pre-murder there was roughly a 2-3% on average lead 4 leave

‘And we are the ones going to decide the next election.’

The only thing the right will decide next Jenny L is whether the LAB majjie t will be 300 or 350 HTH

The polls nearly always underestimate the Tory vote because people just won't admit to voting for them even in a confidential poll

 

However I honestly can't see them pulling it off this time . The SNP are in a total mess too so they can't even rely on their inadvertent assistance as in 2015

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The polls nearly always underestimate the Tory vote because people just won't admit to voting for them even in a confidential poll

an independent enquiry in2 this showed that was bollox and it was mostly down 2 poor sampling and misreporting

while it’s a nice thought that ppl r ashamed of voting tozza, un4tun7ly the sorts of aunts that vote tozza r quite happy 2 admit being aunts

So that was the case in both 1992 and 2015 then Bertha ??

On both occasions it was meant to be more or less in the bag for Labour or at least a hung parliament with Labour as the biggest party 

Both ended up as shock Tory wins

yeah, cos the pollsters and newspapers fooked it up. not cos ppl were hiding that they were dickhead tozzas. 

as a pope sed, 2 b a loudmouth gammony aunt is 2 b tozza, 2 not b a tozza is divine

Oh yes ... My mistake 

 

Seems a bit odd for them to fvck up twice and both times in the same direction 

Still don't get how Milibland fvcked that election so badly . That coalition gov really was not popular at all

 

 

 

We won't vote Conservative 
Because we never have 

Everyone lies, everyone lies 

That’s from 1992

And as for Ed Militede ffs. Though tbf the oppo piled on the tropes just to be sure. If you’re from the shires I imagine he’s about as acceptable as Work Experience 

On the polling, they've adapted their models. There tends to be a 3/4% error i.e. nothing like enough to save the Tories, and they will prob get hammered on tactical voting. 

On the nasty party - their entire saving grace is they promise to protect moneyed old people who want to hang on to all their money plus get state handouts that suit them (NHS, elderly care, triple locked pensions). They should embrace it and start wearing Dick Dastardly outfits with their one pledge being unlimited money to keep gammons and the retired happy, as they obv can't do fook all about their real "pledges". 

<150 seats. 

I thought I'd travelled back in time about 5 years when I read that headline.

It's far, far too late to turn this tanker around; the Tory party has been seen as the nasty party for bloody ages.

The likes of Lidington are utterly powerless now.  Besides, the tozza leadership has probably made the calculated decision that being "the nasty party" is a vote winner, or at the very least, energizes their base to get out and vote, this time around.  

The shy tory factor is absolutely a thing, plus the pro-tozza slant of most of the Great British Press (cf Miliband bacon sandwich - if Sunak were a practising Hindu would there have been a campaign for him to chew down on a Big Mac?).  I think they will be out of office come the next GE - but wouldn't bet my house on some of the landslide estimates being bandied about, including on here.  

Lol. There was no ‘campaign’ for Ed to eat a bacon sandwich other than his own comms team. 
 

there’s certainly no love for starmer in the country either 

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Lol. There was no ‘campaign’ for Ed to eat a bacon sandwich other than his own comms team. 
 

there’s certainly no love for starmer in the country either

“not a tozza”

MASSIVE HEH @ Labour needing a “youth quake” (nb, the youthquake was very real, it’s what hung the 2017 parliament). 

In 2024 all age brackets are going to vote Labour by overwhelming majorities.

there is massive love for starmer in the country

because he’s not a tory

thats all that’s required for a record breaking 500 megamadge

the nation will be completely remade

I agree. The sheer scale of the kicking coming  to the Tories is almost certainly unprecedented. 

Labour have enough in the bank. Come the GE there will be re-runs of Boris partying, Matt snogging, yacht-bound Baroness Mone, some lying, Boris, buses, some more lying, that shot of ERII greiving alone, Kamikazee economics, Truss the lettuce, mortgage defaults, cost of living 

It’s going to be an utter annihilation. The ref would normally stop it in the first round, but unfortunately there’s no early stoppage.

 

Why would we have a GE this autumn when it’s not due until next year?

Bless. You do know what percentage of fixed rate mortgages expire between now and October 2024? Welcome to Rishi’s rock and a hard place.
 

As someone said above, they get elected because people like the nasty policies and a lot of people are paranoid about asylum seekers and lap up all this nasty stuff.

I would love to think they will get stuffed at the next GE but I think there are a lot of people who blame immigrants for everything.

The fact that a lot of the British electorate would on the face of it seem to be stupid is a massive problem.

I thought the Tories were pinning their hopes on avoiding absolute total electoral wipe out precisely by being the nasty party?  Difficult to otherwise explain all this fook refugees stuff.  At least the racist and/or xenophobic vote combined with a rump of tax dodgers will at least get them over 100 MPs must surely be the thinking.

I expect the Tories to make a wildly expensive and completely unworkable manifesto pledge to help with mortgages with no intent to ever carry it through.

If they still lose as expected the they can use it as a stick to beat Labour with "look what we would have done to help people..." and if they somehow win then they'll just water it down/drop it and gamble on 5 years being long enough for the electorate to get over it.