That boat has not only sailed, it’s traversed the Atlantic, navigated the Caribbean and gulf of mexico and is currently in Belize avoiding extradition proceedings.
In your circles, I’ve no doubt. In mine they’re popular and of course the red wall laps them up. And we are the ones going to decide the next election.
But, as Work Experience says himself in his latest vid “You can’t stay here, no matter how hard you try.” Which is just what the country will be saying to him and his cohort next year.
1 of the biggest falsehoods is that the polls have been wrong l7ely
they haven’t, they’ve been pretty accur7 - it’s the shouty newspapers with a rightwhinge agenda who’ve pretended there was different polling.
eg b4 brexit - it was only the week after a brexter murdered jo cox that polling respondents sed they would vote remain, prior 2 that it had been neck and neck and in the last 4 weeks or so pre-murder there was roughly a 2-3% on average lead 4 leave
The polls nearly always underestimate the Tory vote because people just won't admit to voting for them even in a confidential poll
However I honestly can't see them pulling it off this time . The SNP are in a total mess too so they can't even rely on their inadvertent assistance as in 2015
And as for Ed Militede ffs. Though tbf the oppo piled on the tropes just to be sure. If you’re from the shires I imagine he’s about as acceptable as Work Experience
On the polling, they've adapted their models. There tends to be a 3/4% error i.e. nothing like enough to save the Tories, and they will prob get hammered on tactical voting.
On the nasty party - their entire saving grace is they promise to protect moneyed old people who want to hang on to all their money plus get state handouts that suit them (NHS, elderly care, triple locked pensions). They should embrace it and start wearing Dick Dastardly outfits with their one pledge being unlimited money to keep gammons and the retired happy, as they obv can't do fook all about their real "pledges".
The likes of Lidington are utterly powerless now. Besides, the tozza leadership has probably made the calculated decision that being "the nasty party" is a vote winner, or at the very least, energizes their base to get out and vote, this time around.
The shy tory factor is absolutely a thing, plus the pro-tozza slant of most of the Great British Press (cf Miliband bacon sandwich - if Sunak were a practising Hindu would there have been a campaign for him to chew down on a Big Mac?). I think they will be out of office come the next GE - but wouldn't bet my house on some of the landslide estimates being bandied about, including on here.
I agree. The sheer scale of the kicking coming to the Tories is almost certainly unprecedented.
Labour have enough in the bank. Come the GE there will be re-runs of Boris partying, Matt snogging, yacht-bound Baroness Mone, some lying, Boris, buses, some more lying, that shot of ERII greiving alone, Kamikazee economics, Truss the lettuce, mortgage defaults, cost of living
It’s going to be an utter annihilation. The ref would normally stop it in the first round, but unfortunately there’s no early stoppage.
As someone said above, they get elected because people like the nasty policies and a lot of people are paranoid about asylum seekers and lap up all this nasty stuff.
I would love to think they will get stuffed at the next GE but I think there are a lot of people who blame immigrants for everything.
The fact that a lot of the British electorate would on the face of it seem to be stupid is a massive problem.
I thought the Tories were pinning their hopes on avoiding absolute total electoral wipe out precisely by being the nasty party? Difficult to otherwise explain all this fook refugees stuff. At least the racist and/or xenophobic vote combined with a rump of tax dodgers will at least get them over 100 MPs must surely be the thinking.
I expect the Tories to make a wildly expensive and completely unworkable manifesto pledge to help with mortgages with no intent to ever carry it through.
If they still lose as expected the they can use it as a stick to beat Labour with "look what we would have done to help people..." and if they somehow win then they'll just water it down/drop it and gamble on 5 years being long enough for the electorate to get over it.
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heh, yup that boat has sailed
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In fact it is hard not to think of that as disingenuous BS after all these years of Boris and Truss ( work experience doesn’t count yet)
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they stopped 4 a while?
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When? Ah was it when they were busy being incompetent about the economy?
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Why does it matter?
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Erm because people* don't vote for nasty people
And the Tories are (to put it mildly) nasty
*Obviously risky Lydia Clergs will because reasons but they also hate vaccines so not exactly people to rely on
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Clergs won’t vote SNP? Huge if true.
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Heh @ "there's a risk"
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Most of the so called nasty policies are pretty popular.
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That boat has not only sailed, it’s traversed the Atlantic, navigated the Caribbean and gulf of mexico and is currently in Belize avoiding extradition proceedings.
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No they aren't dear. The Rwanda thing, the plague barges and refusing to feed poor kids are all massively unpopular.
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Mine @crypsky
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In your circles, I’ve no doubt. In mine they’re popular and of course the red wall laps them up. And we are the ones going to decide the next election.
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The polls show they aren't popular luv. Your circles are ever decreasing. Sorry for you.
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Currently polling in red wall constituencies:
Labour 52% (-1)
Conservative 27% (+1)
Reform UK 9% (–)
Liberal Democrat 6% (–)
Green 4% (–)
Plaid Cymru 1% (–)
Other 2% (+1)
The Tories are certainly lapping something up m6.
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Royalty wrong again. Crypto correct
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Keep crying crypsky and riskto.
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Let’s see. These “polls” have been wrong more than they’ve been right!
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heh @ risk
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But, as Work Experience says himself in his latest vid “You can’t stay here, no matter how hard you try.” Which is just what the country will be saying to him and his cohort next year.
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1 of the biggest falsehoods is that the polls have been wrong l7ely
they haven’t, they’ve been pretty accur7 - it’s the shouty newspapers with a rightwhinge agenda who’ve pretended there was different polling.
eg b4 brexit - it was only the week after a brexter murdered jo cox that polling respondents sed they would vote remain, prior 2 that it had been neck and neck and in the last 4 weeks or so pre-murder there was roughly a 2-3% on average lead 4 leave
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https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1801812/uk-eco…
Rishi backs boozers. PM personally steps in to save our pubs. Hurrah!
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‘And we are the ones going to decide the next election.’
The only thing the right will decide next Jenny L is whether the LAB majjie t will be 300 or 350 HTH
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No no no they'll decide who gets to ask the question after the LOTO (lib dem) at PMQs.
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’And we are the ones going to decide the next election’
why are you so frit then?
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The polls nearly always underestimate the Tory vote because people just won't admit to voting for them even in a confidential poll
However I honestly can't see them pulling it off this time . The SNP are in a total mess too so they can't even rely on their inadvertent assistance as in 2015
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https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/aug/13/home-office-was-told-ab…
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an independent enquiry in2 this showed that was bollox and it was mostly down 2 poor sampling and misreporting
while it’s a nice thought that ppl r ashamed of voting tozza, un4tun7ly the sorts of aunts that vote tozza r quite happy 2 admit being aunts
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Where is Fvcking Suella?
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So that was the case in both 1992 and 2015 then Bertha ??
On both occasions it was meant to be more or less in the bag for Labour or at least a hung parliament with Labour as the biggest party
Both ended up as shock Tory wins
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yeah, cos the pollsters and newspapers fooked it up. not cos ppl were hiding that they were dickhead tozzas.
as a pope sed, 2 b a loudmouth gammony aunt is 2 b tozza, 2 not b a tozza is divine
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ps i assume u were accidentally addressing bertha/cookster there
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Oh yes ... My mistake
Seems a bit odd for them to fvck up twice and both times in the same direction
Still don't get how Milibland fvcked that election so badly . That coalition gov really was not popular at all
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We won't vote Conservative
Because we never have
Everyone lies, everyone lies
That’s from 1992
And as for Ed Militede ffs. Though tbf the oppo piled on the tropes just to be sure. If you’re from the shires I imagine he’s about as acceptable as Work Experience
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Oracle all over the place on whether the polls are any good or not. Painful
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Where is fvcking Suella?
You can’t even kill defenceless migrants effectively can you?
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Oracle is probably expecting another “youthquake” like the one was that was going to get Corbyn elected!
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I think the tories will lose big crypto, don’t get me wrong. There was a path to a 92 style result but it’ll be more like 97 now
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Possibly but it’s still in play. Lots of unforced errors though - small boats week was a joke.
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On the polling, they've adapted their models. There tends to be a 3/4% error i.e. nothing like enough to save the Tories, and they will prob get hammered on tactical voting.
On the nasty party - their entire saving grace is they promise to protect moneyed old people who want to hang on to all their money plus get state handouts that suit them (NHS, elderly care, triple locked pensions). They should embrace it and start wearing Dick Dastardly outfits with their one pledge being unlimited money to keep gammons and the retired happy, as they obv can't do fook all about their real "pledges".
<150 seats.
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I thought I'd travelled back in time about 5 years when I read that headline.
It's far, far too late to turn this tanker around; the Tory party has been seen as the nasty party for bloody ages.
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The likes of Lidington are utterly powerless now. Besides, the tozza leadership has probably made the calculated decision that being "the nasty party" is a vote winner, or at the very least, energizes their base to get out and vote, this time around.
The shy tory factor is absolutely a thing, plus the pro-tozza slant of most of the Great British Press (cf Miliband bacon sandwich - if Sunak were a practising Hindu would there have been a campaign for him to chew down on a Big Mac?). I think they will be out of office come the next GE - but wouldn't bet my house on some of the landslide estimates being bandied about, including on here.
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They are going to lose because they promised unicorns and rainbows and have delivered a literal river of shit instead
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Do they poll well with British Asians?
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I believe so, but Indian-heritage more than the others. Can’t comment on those of Chinese heritage (but there aren’t so many).
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Lol. There was no ‘campaign’ for Ed to eat a bacon sandwich other than his own comms team.
there’s certainly no love for starmer in the country either
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You might not love him risky
But most voters think he is the saviour to 13+ years of tory facism and economic negligence
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lol if u say so, Davis.
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I do say so
Majjy T coming
Tories crying
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You might be right, I can’t deny that. But I think we will pull it back - just.
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“not a tozza”
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Do You think that’s a statement an independent couldnt make then oracle? Many even in labour don’t love him!
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MASSIVE HEH @ Labour needing a “youth quake” (nb, the youthquake was very real, it’s what hung the 2017 parliament).
In 2024 all age brackets are going to vote Labour by overwhelming majorities.
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there is massive love for starmer in the country
because he’s not a tory
thats all that’s required for a record breaking 500 megamadge
the nation will be completely remade
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I agree. The sheer scale of the kicking coming to the Tories is almost certainly unprecedented.
Labour have enough in the bank. Come the GE there will be re-runs of Boris partying, Matt snogging, yacht-bound Baroness Mone, some lying, Boris, buses, some more lying, that shot of ERII greiving alone, Kamikazee economics, Truss the lettuce, mortgage defaults, cost of living
It’s going to be an utter annihilation. The ref would normally stop it in the first round, but unfortunately there’s no early stoppage.
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Of course you’ll certainly be pointing out the need for PR then won’t you …
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And even more unfortunately for the economy and ordinary people there’s still a year and some for these interlopers to fvck us over.
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I still have never had an explanation from risky and his Tory lot as to why they aren't going to the polls this autumn
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I'm totally fine for risky types not to vote if they feel it isn't working for them.
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Likely not to royalty
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Good, you'd probably just write Putin on the ballot with your own faeces anyway.
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Ohdearwhatapitynevermind.
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Why would we have a GE this autumn when it’s not due until next year?
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LAB +25
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Why would we have a GE this autumn when it’s not due until next year?
Bless. You do know what percentage of fixed rate mortgages expire between now and October 2024? Welcome to Rishi’s rock and a hard place.
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No idea. I suspect they expire all the time.
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As someone said above, they get elected because people like the nasty policies and a lot of people are paranoid about asylum seekers and lap up all this nasty stuff.
I would love to think they will get stuffed at the next GE but I think there are a lot of people who blame immigrants for everything.
The fact that a lot of the British electorate would on the face of it seem to be stupid is a massive problem.
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TIMES ARE HARD!!!
THE COUNTRY IS FULL!!!
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I thought the Tories were pinning their hopes on avoiding absolute total electoral wipe out precisely by being the nasty party? Difficult to otherwise explain all this fook refugees stuff. At least the racist and/or xenophobic vote combined with a rump of tax dodgers will at least get them over 100 MPs must surely be the thinking.
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I expect the Tories to make a wildly expensive and completely unworkable manifesto pledge to help with mortgages with no intent to ever carry it through.
If they still lose as expected the they can use it as a stick to beat Labour with "look what we would have done to help people..." and if they somehow win then they'll just water it down/drop it and gamble on 5 years being long enough for the electorate to get over it.
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Place your bets now. It’s going to be grim. But on the upside watching Work Experience and the rest of the spooky gang get kicked out will be fun.
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