Had Netanyahu not arranged for Qatar to provide funds to Hamas, they would not have the tunnel network and weapons to have carried out 7 October assault
Had Netanyahu and his Government not killed, abducted, humiliated and oppressed the population of Gaza on a perennial basis, they might have had more hope and less desire for vengeance. With that hope and without the vengeance, Hamas may have been unable to retain the support of the population of Gaza.
Yes whenever the Jews get killed, some people claim it's a Jewish conspiracy
The road to peace is long is apparently educated westerners think that
The Cameron path to peace and a two state solution is as good as any I have seen and he's explained it very well to Israel (not sure if he has spoken to the terrorist group Hamas but I doubt it)
I don't like Cameron and his politics generally but can get on board with that
"The United States continues to strongly support a two-state solution. This vote does not reflect opposition to Palestinian statehood, but instead is an acknowledgment that it will only come from direct negotiations between the parties," Deputy U.S. Ambassador to the U.N. Robert Wood told the council.
Ahhh yes, those same direct negotiations that failed in the past and where the leader of one of the two parties has since boasted about his pride in having prevented this from occurring.
Well given Hamas (a terrorist group) has in its charter to never negotiate with the Jews/israel, it's not that surprising
And yet, what have they been doing over the last couple of months with Qatar and Egypt acting as mediators? You selectively choose when to consider the Hamas charter as being equivalent to the word of God. It's mostly just puff and bluster. The more recent revision (2017) recognises the 1967 partition as a potential starting point for an agreed peace solution
It was actually you who started selectively quoting the Hamas (a terrorist group) charter and when another roffer (Jim perhaps) pointed out all the anti-Semitic stuff about Jewish conspiracies etc in it, you tried to move the conversation on
Funny that
And you keep saying the 7 October attack was in fact a Jewish conspiracy
I mean, it's not exactly thinly veiled at this point is it
I've read the Hamas charter (original and 2017) and was surprised at how selectively some of it is presented. You're absolutely right, I do have views on Hamas that are not aligned with the US/media portrayal but I would only share them with people who show me that they are interested in a good faith discussion (i.e. not you) because I can't be bothered to correct the straw men that people like you come back with (see your last post above).
If you can link me to a thread where I ever said that 7 Oct was “a Jewish conspiracy” I will never post on ROF again.
If you can link me to a thread where I have denied that the Hamas charter says something specific (I.e not just a disagreement about interpretation but denial of factual content), I will never post on ROF again.
Davos you really are disgraceful in your determination to make out anyone expressing a pro-Palestinian view to be a Hamas supporter and/or anti-Semitic, and God forbid they bring up the last 76 years because then come your predictable accusations of whataboutery.
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Peace could come today
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The forrin sec has been saying this is one of the steps to peace for about 10 years
Although the first step is Hamas not being in control of Palestine
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You mean Gaza.
Had Netanyahu not arranged for Qatar to provide funds to Hamas, they would not have the tunnel network and weapons to have carried out 7 October assault
Had Netanyahu and his Government not killed, abducted, humiliated and oppressed the population of Gaza on a perennial basis, they might have had more hope and less desire for vengeance. With that hope and without the vengeance, Hamas may have been unable to retain the support of the population of Gaza.
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Israel was a mistake. It needs saying.
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I can see the logic but hard to say that Palestine is a state or that it is capable of complying with and upholding the UN charter.
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lol chuff, it would not even be in the bottom 10 least viable states .
If you actually belief that I have some amazing coin based investment opportunities for you
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You see how the, “What is so special about Israel to get this attention “ , argument works both ways, yes?
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Yes whenever the Jews get killed, some people claim it's a Jewish conspiracy
The road to peace is long is apparently educated westerners think that
The Cameron path to peace and a two state solution is as good as any I have seen and he's explained it very well to Israel (not sure if he has spoken to the terrorist group Hamas but I doubt it)
I don't like Cameron and his politics generally but can get on board with that
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Israel is a terrorist organisation. So maybe he also spoke to Hamas
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12 voted in favour but the US used its veto
"The United States continues to strongly support a two-state solution. This vote does not reflect opposition to Palestinian statehood, but instead is an acknowledgment that it will only come from direct negotiations between the parties," Deputy U.S. Ambassador to the U.N. Robert Wood told the council.
Ahhh yes, those same direct negotiations that failed in the past and where the leader of one of the two parties has since boasted about his pride in having prevented this from occurring.
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Well given Hamas (a terrorist group) has in its charter to never negotiate with the Jews/israel, it's not that surprising
Get Hamas out and maybe they can have a chat
And the US will be on board too
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And yet, what have they been doing over the last couple of months with Qatar and Egypt acting as mediators? You selectively choose when to consider the Hamas charter as being equivalent to the word of God. It's mostly just puff and bluster. The more recent revision (2017) recognises the 1967 partition as a potential starting point for an agreed peace solution
Causation 101 fail
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Your views on Hamas (a terrorist group) are really coming through now
Shocking stuff
I wonder why you like Hamas (a terrorist group) so much
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It was actually you who started selectively quoting the Hamas (a terrorist group) charter and when another roffer (Jim perhaps) pointed out all the anti-Semitic stuff about Jewish conspiracies etc in it, you tried to move the conversation on
Funny that
And you keep saying the 7 October attack was in fact a Jewish conspiracy
I mean, it's not exactly thinly veiled at this point is it
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I've read the Hamas charter (original and 2017) and was surprised at how selectively some of it is presented. You're absolutely right, I do have views on Hamas that are not aligned with the US/media portrayal but I would only share them with people who show me that they are interested in a good faith discussion (i.e. not you) because I can't be bothered to correct the straw men that people like you come back with (see your last post above).
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Your the only talking about Jewish conspiracies
Not me
Your the one denying what the Hamas (a terrorist group) charter says
Not me
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If you can link me to a thread where I ever said that 7 Oct was “a Jewish conspiracy” I will never post on ROF again.
If you can link me to a thread where I have denied that the Hamas charter says something specific (I.e not just a disagreement about interpretation but denial of factual content), I will never post on ROF again.
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Hamas is a proscribed terrorist organisation
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Davos you really are disgraceful in your determination to make out anyone expressing a pro-Palestinian view to be a Hamas supporter and/or anti-Semitic, and God forbid they bring up the last 76 years because then come your predictable accusations of whataboutery.
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Cool
Just search for your comments on Israel funding Hamas so they could attack on 7 October
Don't really care either way if you stop posting or not
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Davos is pwning this. I do enjoy it when he gets stuck in (I just wish he wasn’t so mean to my only rof friend).
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That'll be a fail by you then. Because "Israel" isn't the same as "Jewish" no matter how much you try to conflate the two.
Not to mention that it's demonstrably true that Netanyahu requested that Qatar facilitate the funding of Hamas. Do you deny that?
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Happy to be a disgrace but will always call out pro Hamas stuff when I see it
Anyone who wants peace and or supports Palestinians is anti hamas
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Davos is pwning this
LOL
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+1 to hun bun
Give it a rest Crypto, it’s got (troll) bells on
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