have found myself in this region of l88 m88, in the region of thetford and not far from, as I understand it, the ancestral Serge manor.
Cant help noticing the locals have a bit of a cockney twang to them, rather than the expected “burr” which is, I believe, the accepted way of describing the local accent anywhere in england outside of a metropolitan centre.
Is this phenomenon due to the large scale relocation of large number of jellied eel loving east londoners to Thetford in the postwar decades, as part of London County Council’s overspill plan?
Driving up here seemed to take ages even on modern fast roads. For the original relocatees it must have been like being moved to the far side of the moon fgs. No wonder they chose to retain their social and economic ties to the metropolis, resulting not only in the survival of a cockney linguistic colony but also to Thetford’s ongoing role as a marketplace and distribution hub for commodities generally sourced in the big bad city. Nerve centre of the county lines.
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good spot. it’s a common misconception that the east anglian accent is like a rhotic west country burr - it’s not. it’s got similarities 2 cockney
i don’t believe it’s 2 do with cockney migrations - the population is small and relatively speaking static. the accent/dialect massively pre-d7s the war.
appaz linguists reckon it was more that cockney is a mix, taking elements from the east anglian dialect when temporarily travelling there and trading
until the industrial revolution, norwich was the 3rd biggest city in the uk - ppl came vi norfolk/suffolk 2 trade across the north sea 4 centuries. so that’s y actually it’s ended up becoming isol7ed when it lost its relevance
ur right it’s bloody hard 2 get 2. it was even worse when the a11 was single carriageway. 4 a place which is on the same latitude as birmingham, it feels a long way away
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South Norfolk is very pikey. North Norfolk is where the poshos with a burr live.
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Laz, you should stop in at Grimes Graves when you are in that neck of the woods. in the words (well, word) of Prof Cox: "AMAZING!"
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Perfect drive for a Skoda Superb estate L&K driver if I may make so bold.
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there rn’t be poshos with a burr or indeed non poshos with a burr u muppet - c above
south norfolk is massive, so it depends which part. eg round thet4d it’s super grim. appaz parts of the training area there r technically desert cos of low rainfall. whereas all round the south-eastern part it’s v nice, on the border with suffolk
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unk is right, the driving can b good - just don’t expect it 2 b fast
and never ever ever ever do the a47 drive and across lincolnshire
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isn't center parcs elveden on the road to thetford? I seem to recall that being one very very long jam.
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yeah that’s the bit that has now been dualled
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Please stop conflating Norfolk with Suffolk. The baby Jesus is crying. There is no 'east anglian accent' given the number of counties making up that area. The Norfolk accent has bugger all similarities to cockney, don't tar us with the same brush as That Lot Down the Road, bor.
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Center Parcs is where I be
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Worst of the english CPs for my money. Unless they have done it up in the last 10 years.
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For my money, longleat takes the CP cup. Too hilly but nicely spread out campus. Woburn second but very cramped. Nottingham edges out elveden but tbf i havent been to either of thise in a long time. Elveden shouldnt have looked so shabby given it was rebuilt after the fire.*
*i see that was 2002 and i went last in about 2012
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Nah, Sherwood is the best, but a longer drive for us. Elveden’s gr88 with loads of brand new lodges. I hear Woburn barely has any trees.
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didn’t realise there’d been a fire here tbh
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Whole plaza went whoompf
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inkorrekt m7
east anglian is widely recognised as a broad accent group (or indeed dialect). there r obv subsidiary dialects/accents beneath it. a bit like scouse has multiple different but rel7ed types
i agree that the subsidiary accents r distinguishable (even within norfolk there r several) but that doesn’t alter the wider category
if u have an issue, take it up with that exhibition on the history of the east anglian dialect at the castle museum
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South Norfolk is very pikey. North Norfolk is where the poshos with a burr live.
Like Sandringham, you mean?
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Sir Woke. Do they still have the revolving restaurant there?
(Mrs P declined the table we were shown to as she didn’t like the view). I remind her when we need a piss taking balancing.
Enjoy.
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